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  • Remember me? Three years later....

    03. 25. 2011 12:27

UberChuck
Hey guys,

I used to play NF from 8th grade to Sophomore year of high school ('05-'08 ish). I'm now a
Freshman at college, and I just saw James Cameron's Expedition Bismarck in German on
Youtube (not understanding a thing except for "dee Bismarck", "dee Hood", "dee Prince
ovvvVales" etc) which got me into thinking about playing this old game again.

I used to play USN primarily. After slaving away in a SoDak with pathetic range, I finally
getting the Iowa, I decided it was time to call it quits.

So things I remember from the past

1) Two turreted Nelsons with RP-12 (I think that's what they were called) that could
withstand Thor's hammer and Zeus' thunder bolts and sink half the enemy team.
2) Lions with two front turrets doing the exact same thing.
3) Zee Germans whining about how their guns had the firepower of a twinkie.
4) Z99 and DDX DDs had everyone crying "Burn them!"
5) Same thing as above, but with Sevastopols and Moltkes
6) The introduction of premium accounts and super sailors and the ability to buy veterans
and such. Had a lot of guys who grinded for months (like me) grumbling about how rich kids
with daddy's credit card could do the same thing in four or five months what took me two
years.
7) Banging my head on the keyboard every game playing Alaska and Guam and wishing I had
gone Suckvada while Suckvada players wished the opposite.
8) Introduction of PBBs which made BB3s useless.

So three years later what's new?

I see the Frogs and Bears made it into the game.
I saw submarines and I went "Aw hell no"

What should I know about changes? I suspect there's a lot of them lol. I'm gonna see if I
can buy a mouse and start playing as soon as I can.
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  • Re : Remember me? Three years later....

    03. 26. 2011 07:13

bbchevyman
2 new nations. A LOT more problems than 3 years ago... And a lot of shared exp nubbs , so
teamwork is even worse than 3 years ago... Its a big free for all in every battle, and its
quite comical to be honest..
Do yourself a HUGE favor. DONT BOTHER COMING BACK!!!! AND PLEASE PLEASE DONT GIVE SDE ANY
OF YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY.......
Lots of bugs and issues that WILL NOT be fixed anytime in the near future, if ever.

Just the opinion of a 6 year vet

Just run away!!!!

  • Re : Remember me? Three years later....

    03. 25. 2011 19:11

Plazmadj
It's not that their range was nerfed, it's just that when the PBBs were put onto the
servers they had N and L guns. They could also fit the BB2 FCS, so u could choose between
using the N guns (same range as the current guns) with awesome spread or the L guns which
had worse spread but about the same range as the BB4s.

Honestly I wish they would have just removed the L guns and kept the BB2 FCS ability on
the ships because with the reduced speed, the spread on the Seva and the B65 makes using
these instead of the regular BBs somewhat pointless :-/

  • Re : Remember me? Three years later....

    03. 25. 2011 18:42

Luedecke
@ quietcos:

The Sevastopol and the other PBBs were overpowered then they came out. They were nerfed
afterwards.
Here are some extractions from the patch descriptions of 2007:

----------------------------

"The Following PBBs' submergences have been decreased
[Remark: Submergance is just 1 factor that decides how damage is taken when shells hit the
ship. There is structual integrity, soft defence, armor, and submergance.
Submergance is the most basic form of defence. It varies among different ships.]

US
Lv 61 BB.Sevastopol
- Submergence changed : 141 -> 126

[...]

*For submergences, they had better then BB5's submergences, now they have little
worse then BB3. "

"1. The speed of the PBBs has been decreased by 3 knots each.
-Overheat speed will remain the same."

"1-2. Premium Ship
(1) US
- Lv 61 BB.Sevastopol
FCS Space: 115 -> 105
Durability: 22100 -> 20100
T-Mount Space: 34 -> 63
Speed: Decreased by 3 knots
Overheat Ratio: 30"

--------------------------

If I remember right the range of the PBBs were nerfed too. They had nearly BB4 range before.

  • Re : Remember me? Three years later....

    03. 25. 2011 18:20

ioh1
Thx Sadistic one, that made my day :-)

  • Re : Remember me? Three years later....

    03. 25. 2011 16:57

SadisticOne
When a friendly ship explodes and sinks beside you for no apparent reason, it
means there's a sub in the area.

  • Re : Remember me? Three years later....

    03. 25. 2011 15:03

Vawlkus
Oh, $DE decided that the best way to prevent hackers hacking their game was to hack every
users computer.

They used Ahn Labs HackShield program, which as other games that use it have shown, is
about as useful as a wet papertowel against a huricane.

You also don't get a choice, HS gets ninja'd into your computer without your permission
during the update. Includes a free keylogger & rootkit.

  • Re : Remember me? Three years later....

    03. 25. 2011 14:35

quietcos
As mentioned, there have been a lot of changes. But everything in your post still rings
true... except for the bit about Sevastopol. I've never heard anyone say "Burn them" or
even express a slight amount of concern about a Sevastopol.

  • Re : Remember me? Three years later....

    03. 25. 2011 13:52

Luedecke
You get 40% more exp now like premium users in the past. And premium users become another
40% exp. So 100 exp in the past are now 140 exp and with prem 196 exp. So with a premium
subscription 20k exp on CL in a GB2 are nothing special.
BB3s were "balanced" by a patch.
Bismarck has the most BB3 range now.
BB6 and CV6 are released (lvl120).
If you want to see all changes I recomment to read the patch descriptions.
http://trainworld.us/NF2/English/1081Announcement.txt

Happy reading :)

  • Re : Remember me? Three years later....

    03. 25. 2011 12:50

Gump
chuck.. most important thing of all.. get a prem (you will be glad you did if you can
afford it).. and be patient.. this game is having a few problems right now,, but it is still
damn good.. SDE just needs to get off their butts and fix a couple of problems and then
this game will be damn near perfect.

just have fun and be patient, and you will be rewarded with a torp or 2 :D

  • Re : Remember me? Three years later....

    03. 25. 2011 12:48

SiriusA
This is probably only the tip of the iceberg as far as what happen over the last few
years...

New Nations (France and Soviet Union,they both came out not properly balanced
though,MN was basically copy pasted from korea,SN was tested on the new test
server,though SN BB's are a bit OPed
A new server was created at the same time France came out (Feb 2010) lack of
activity was a big problem so last month the 4 servers were condensed into 2
(Finally)
PCV's were introduced July 2009.
Elites are now tradable,Neutral Sailors are not (September 2009)
No more vet death on pilots,T4 Fighters,bombers reload quicker (So you'll see a LOT
more 8+ planes on 1 pilot,UK and IJN Fighters get eaten up by US KM and MN since
bomber ability doesn't work for fighters anymore,T5 Scouts that outrun all fighters
but locals (< Low lvl Fighter with short range but high speed and firepower)
SS4,Hedgehogs (Anti-sub weapon)
Great Battle 2 displaced Great Battle 1,Blitzkrieg's default map is Hobbit-death-
trap,Ise 1943,Mogami 1944 and Oyodo are now BB,CA and CL respectively.
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