@CommanderR

It wasn't a flame, just correcting the information you posted. I actually was wrong
on the value of KM bulge protection as well as it being the least effective (if you
include neutral as a designated nation). Please see this page, bulge armor section:
http://www.trainworld.us/NF2/English/Armor.html

I will post the information here for those that don't want to take the time checking
the page.

IJN - 100
US - 94
UK - 87
KM - 83

Generally speaking, UK has the strongest armor and IJN has the weakest. US is
almost always the second most effective armor of the original nations (accounting
for the lower weight of the armor as compared to KM)


*hid my own post...if a forum mod doesn't think this is inflammatory, it can be
recovered.*

Reading all this belly aching nonsense makes me hungry.

I think I'll go get my sub. Hmmm. Maybe a nice battleship sounds delicious. Yeah.

honestly YES GOD YES the sub surface dmg durability nerf was a huge step in the right direction i
think asw needs a look at also but these are the stats for the ijn ss 4 torpedo's below
21" Type95 M1 12 3119 13/
13 44 55 6300 4441 22191 311

that big number 22000 or so is their he dmg the ijn ss 4 shells out 8 of those at a time or a possible
176000 or so dmg without bulge it can effectively 1 shot every single ship in the game the mn bb6
has a max dmg per salvo of any surface ship siting at 73k or so thats less then half the dmg for
almost dubble the lvl even with 100+ bulge .2 belt and 900sd technically 2-3 salvos form a ijn ss4 will
kill you. 1 torpedo will kill any friendly asw if it hits nearby due to the insane splash which is the main
thing that needs to be looked at now as a band aid missing with torpedo's shouldn't result in epic
win.

What was the Bulge, Belt, and SD on that BB6?

@kinluu lol, huhu kinluu ;-)

I wonder... did sk sell his account?

kim55, is it you?

"I dodged, the sub missed. Everything else is just a lame attempt to justify that one
ship class does not have to aim properly to do damage."

QFT

""Why do most ships need to hit ships in order to do damage, while others don't?"
---
Duds "

Funny how peeople have been saying why not get rid of duds while adjusting
torpedo damage and splash radius.

"Why do most ships need to hit ships in order to do damage, while others don't?"
---
Duds

I dodged, the sub missed. Everything else is just a lame attempt to justify that one ship
class does not have to aim properly to do damage. By that same twisted logic, you could
justify a CV splashing ships to death, just because the prerequisites (no AA on the
target, didn't call for FC, didn't know where the bombers came from, team failure etc.
etc.) were met. In the end, the CV still has to hit its mark. Subs don't.

There's nothing further to say.

Bye.

@Dj

"Subs are overpowered in a good many aspects, and to counter that SDE decided to
make ASW overpowered. In GB there is no team play (Congratulations still go out to
SDE on that one, you managed to create a "Team" gamemode that destroyed Team
Play in this game) so subs have little or no trouble waltzing up to the lines and
destroying what they want at will."

Who cares about mode where is no team play? Subs bring more variability to
teamplay but ofcourse...in game mode where is no teamplay could subs looks like
OP and there will be everytime whining about subs in this mode same like are
whined CVs for no scouting, BB for stupid play etc...