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MN/SN patch contents so far
05. 17. 2011 20:59

angus725	Edited out the ETA again. As long as we don't have final dates, I am not goignt o allow a semi-official release time. MM ------------------------------ Due to the lack of attention on the test server forums, and many people missing out on the balance debates, I'm going to be posting updates here about the ongoing MN/SN balance patch. Some BB changes so far (Not all, not final, and subject to change!) BB3 Strasbourg - x4 13"/50 cal Model 1931 (Level 81) Base speed increased by 1 from 26 to 27 (Main guns+ammo+engine+FCS+ lv 120 crew) Turning force increased from 18 to 21 R Space increased from 349 -> 409 (5 binds total) Gun Space required: 320 -> 372 Shellweight per bind: 105.6 -> 85.5 Gun Accuracy bonus: +2 Gun Required Level: 81 -> 79 Gun Rename to x4 13"/50 cal Model 1934 (otherwise name is the same as the PBB guns) T space (large): 120 -> 153 (for a new set of quad 5.1" As) BB4 Richelieu - Lvl 91 x4 14.96" /45 cal Model 1935 R Space increased from 442 -> 450 (should be 5 binds) Base speed increased by 2 knot from 25 to 27 (Main guns+ammo+engine+FCS+ lv 120 crew) Reload time decreased from 18.96 -> 18.56 Light HE damage increased from 1120 -> 1330 (~33k/salvo -> ~38k/salvo) Gun Accuracy bonus increased by +2 Weight per bind reduced from 139.3 -> 111 BB5 Alsace:- 4x 18.89"/45 cal Model 1936 DP Increased from 28550 -> 30500 R Space Increased from 500 -> 510 Gun level reduced from 105 -> 100 Shells per bind increased from 30 -> 40. Weight per bind reduced from 200 -> 160 Ship Cost: 2895000 -> 4200000 T space: Large: 112-> 153 (see richy) T space: Small: 57 -> 86 (see richy) Gun Accuracy: +1 Note, submergence may be nerfed soon due to the increase in DP and spread. BB6 Charlemagne - Lvl 120 x4 18.89"/45 cal Model 1945 Base Speed +2 from 23 to 25 BB Charlemagne: R-Space: 737 -> 747 Weight per bind: 200.1 -> 160 Gun Accuracy bonus: +2 then +2, +4 in total (In total, change was accidentally requested twice, this should be +3 after the next test server patch) Reload time: 20 -> 20.8 BB3 Imperatritsa Mariya: APHC (AP hull cap, ability to absorb damage): 1547 -> 3000 Complete list of changes can be found either here: Patch notes format: http://www.navyfield.com/board/view.asp?Num=189612&Sort=C07 Test server forums (where the balancing is being done): http://www.navyfield.com/board/list.asp?Sort=C07 -Angus

angus725

Edited out the ETA again. As long as we don't have final dates, I am not goignt o allow a
semi-official release time.

MM

------------------------------
Due to the lack of attention on the test server forums, and many people missing out
on the balance debates, I'm going to be posting updates here about the ongoing
MN/SN balance patch.

Some BB changes so far (Not all, not final, and subject to change!)

BB3 Strasbourg - x4 13"/50 cal Model 1931 (Level 81)
Base speed increased by 1 from 26 to 27 (Main guns+ammo+engine+FCS+ lv 120
crew)
Turning force increased from 18 to 21
R Space increased from 349 -> 409 (5 binds total)
Gun Space required: 320 -> 372
Shellweight per bind: 105.6 -> 85.5
Gun Accuracy bonus: +2
Gun Required Level: 81 -> 79
Gun Rename to x4 13"/50 cal Model 1934 (otherwise name is the same as the PBB
guns)
T space (large): 120 -> 153 (for a new set of quad 5.1" As)

BB4 Richelieu - Lvl 91 x4 14.96" /45 cal Model 1935
R Space increased from 442 -> 450 (should be 5 binds)
Base speed increased by 2 knot from 25 to 27 (Main guns+ammo+engine+FCS+ lv
120 crew)
Reload time decreased from 18.96 -> 18.56
Light HE damage increased from 1120 -> 1330 (~33k/salvo -> ~38k/salvo)
Gun Accuracy bonus increased by +2
Weight per bind reduced from 139.3 -> 111

BB5 Alsace:- 4x 18.89"/45 cal Model 1936
DP Increased from 28550 -> 30500
R Space Increased from 500 -> 510
Gun level reduced from 105 -> 100
Shells per bind increased from 30 -> 40.
Weight per bind reduced from 200 -> 160
Ship Cost: 2895000 -> 4200000
T space: Large: 112-> 153 (see richy)
T space: Small: 57 -> 86 (see richy)
Gun Accuracy: +1
Note, submergence may be nerfed soon due to the increase in DP and spread.

BB6 Charlemagne - Lvl 120 x4 18.89"/45 cal Model 1945
Base Speed +2 from 23 to 25
BB Charlemagne: R-Space: 737 -> 747
Weight per bind: 200.1 -> 160
Gun Accuracy bonus: +2 then +2, +4 in total (In total, change was accidentally
requested twice, this should be +3 after the next test server patch)
Reload time: 20 -> 20.8

BB3 Imperatritsa Mariya:
APHC (AP hull cap, ability to absorb damage): 1547 -> 3000

Complete list of changes can be found either here:

Patch notes format:
http://www.navyfield.com/board/view.asp?Num=189612&Sort=C07

Test server forums (where the balancing is being done):
http://www.navyfield.com/board/list.asp?Sort=C07

-Angus

Re : MN/SN patch ETA: 2nd week of July
06. 09. 2011 10:28

whitworth	a bb6 that has base 25 speed - u must be joking? Each tier should be slower than the previous to give the lower tiers a chance.

Re : MN/SN patch ETA: 2nd week of July
06. 09. 2011 05:31

NIborGER	its a nerf. the aphc means the maximum AP dmg a ship can take by one shell. more exactly: a HE shell has a HE and AP dmg. The biggest part is the AP one but the AP dmg a shell can do isnt determinded by the shell itself but by the target too. Maybe a example explains it better: lets say a L2 shots normal HE first at a Kaiser then at IM. lets say one shell does maximum 6k dmg. 4500 are AP dmg (its the cap for AP dmg) and does 1500 HE dmg. L2 vs. kaiser: APHC=4500 so it gets full dmg =>6000dmg by each shell L2 vs. IM(old): APHC=1547 dmg: 1500HE but just 1547 AP dmg since APHC>AP dmg of the shell =>3047dmg by each shell L2 vs. IM(new): APHC=1547 dmg: 1500HE but just 3000 AP dmg since is still APHC>AP dmg of the shell =>4500dmg by each shell so its a nerf. now it can take ca. 50% more dmg by a shell as long as the AP dmg of a shell is >3k. for shells having a AP dmg below 1.5k noting changes. for shells in between ther will be just a smaller buff I hope its understandable this way

NIborGER

its a nerf. the aphc means the maximum AP dmg a ship can take by one shell.

more exactly:
a HE shell has a HE and AP dmg. The biggest part is the AP one but the AP dmg a shell can
do isnt determinded by the shell itself but by the target too. Maybe a example explains it
better:
lets say a L2 shots normal HE first at a Kaiser then at IM. lets say one shell does
maximum 6k dmg. 4500 are AP dmg (its the cap for AP dmg) and does 1500 HE dmg.

L2 vs. kaiser:
APHC=4500 so it gets full dmg
=>6000dmg by each shell

L2 vs. IM(old):
APHC=1547 dmg: 1500HE but just 1547 AP dmg since APHC>AP dmg of the shell
=>3047dmg by each shell

L2 vs. IM(new):
APHC=1547 dmg: 1500HE but just 3000 AP dmg since is still APHC>AP dmg of the shell
=>4500dmg by each shell

so its a nerf. now it can take ca. 50% more dmg by a shell as long as the AP dmg of a
shell is >3k. for shells having a AP dmg below 1.5k noting changes. for shells in between
ther will be just a smaller buff

I hope its understandable this way

Re : MN/SN patch ETA: 2nd week of July
06. 09. 2011 04:08

Fairimear	Wait this looks like the IM is gettinga buff not a nerf. WTF.

Re : MN/SN patch ETA: 2nd week of July
06. 08. 2011 09:44

angus725	We're still working on the SN BB4-6, nothing is final for SN for now.

Re : MN/SN patch ETA: 2nd week of July
06. 08. 2011 04:58

Willg210	No turning force buff for the P24? Is the stalingrad keeping a nerfed version of the 12"?

Re : MN/SN patch ETA: 2nd week of July
06. 08. 2011 04:45

ljsevern	This patch is mainly about fitting MN and SN into the current balance. The real work is when we start on the aircraft project :)

Re : MN/SN patch ETA: 2nd week of July
06. 07. 2011 21:13

angus725	UK < US < KM < MN < SN < IJN? Not exactly, there are certain variations for ships of each nation, but generally it's around: UK<US<SN<MN<IJN=KM

Re : MN/SN patch ETA: 2nd week of July
06. 07. 2011 14:28

AdmSevicson	Everyone knows I was talking about the Imperatritsa Mariya. Kudos for you for acting immature. If this is the only comment you can write on this topic...maybe you should have used your gray mass in that head of yours first and figured out that's a pointless comment. Acting like some smartass on how someone else writes a shipname....jesus. They opened this thread for comments about the OP. This is also written in the OP. It seems you don't read everything aswell. Too bad you always have this insulting, trouble looking kids. This makes NF really great (sarcasm). Anyway back on topic about the patch: Glad the MN db get nerfed. Can you tell us where the damage will be located compared with the rest? UK < US < KM < MN < SN < IJN?

AdmSevicson

Everyone knows I was talking about the Imperatritsa Mariya. Kudos for you for
acting immature. If this is the only comment you can write on this topic...maybe you
should have used your gray mass in that head of yours first and figured out that's a
pointless comment. Acting like some smartass on how someone else writes a
shipname....jesus.
They opened this thread for comments about the OP. This is also written in the OP.
It seems you don't read everything aswell. Too bad you always have this insulting,
trouble looking kids. This makes NF really great (sarcasm).

Anyway back on topic about the patch:
Glad the MN db get nerfed. Can you tell us where the damage will be located
compared with the rest?

UK < US < KM < MN < SN < IJN?

Re : MN/SN patch ETA: 2nd week of July
06. 07. 2011 05:46

clemo85	Just me being stupid. No change there! :P The higher the number, the weaker the ship. So its suvivability is basically being cut in half. :EDIT: But come on, submergence NERF? Give me a break Obviously its submergence is too high with the DP buff, therefore it will be reduced. Otherwise it would be UK suvivability, US hitting power, IJN speed and good AA. Where would be the weakness?

Re : MN/SN patch ETA: 2nd week of July
06. 07. 2011 04:51

MrClueLess	'APHC (AP hull cap, ability to absorb damage): 1547 -> 3000' So does this make it weaker, as in, it takes more damage, or stonger, as in absorb more damage before death? Just me being stupid.

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Re : MN/SN patch ETA: 2nd week of July 06. 09. 2011 10:28

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