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  • comparison of nations, and need for re-balancing

    10. 27. 2005 04:49

scudder
I did an exhuastive comparison of nations, and here's how it turns out.

The Brits have the worst torpedos. Torpedos are 99% of the game, it's THE way to get
experience and levels.

Thus the Brits should be compensated with armour or better gun damage or another support
slot, or something.



LOL ok tongue removed from cheek, when you see these UKBB vs USABB vs JAPBB vs GERBB,
don't you wonder how the hell a UK player is going to get to that high a level?

You still see Germans and Americans and Japs playing in their DESTROYERS when they have 3
bars! British players grind their way from one mediocre ship to the next, and it's not
easy. It's slow, slow, slow, and slow. If you want to compare stuff compare level 80BBs of
other nations to level 60BBs of the UK, because that's how it is. There is no way for the
UK to get massive exp quickly, because we have to get it by shooting and sinking 1 ship at
a time.



I now return you to the complaint-fest already in progress, where you will hear why the UK
is completely superior to everything else. In theory. Even though the EVIDENCE shows that
the high level players got there in USA and GERMAN and JAPANESE ships.


edit:
BTW I'm not actually suggesting any changes, to clear that up. I like the Brits, I like
shooting stuff, and I don't care if it's slower, imo it's funner.

So please get off our cases, stop trying to vote for Brit ships to be molested!
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  • Re : comparison of nations, and need for re-balancing

    10. 27. 2005 07:19

SWPIGWANG
dumbass.....

UKDD:

The Q is one super strong DD. Before the new DDs, it is so uber that half the server
wants it nerfed. The only reason why high level players don't use it is because its
displacement isn't big, so can't fit high level crew on it.

UKCL:
Sirus with 8" belt, no torp room, can kill 10 DD by itself, no problem. Not even the Z99
do that well against the Sirus even though it is an super unbalanced ship. The Sirus
positively rapes all other CL1 in an DD/CL sistuation, and is more than capable of
standing toe to toe with CL2.

For an example of high level UKCL, check out Mars' Sirus or Manicdc's Edien.
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lack of high lv UKDD/UKCL boats:
Thats because UK get strong high ship class ships early. The york is usable at lv.45 and
competitive up to lv70, while IJN players have to wait to lv52 to get their 1st CA, and
similarly for Brook line US players and D-land line KM players.

When other players at same level is stuck in a DD, the UK gets CA that rapes all anyways.

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How many British ships could make a game called 'me versus all' and take their low-level
CL against 40 DDs, sink 20 of them, and start another game and do it again in less than 5
minutes?
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kitakami is lv52. Sirus is lv35. York is lv37 (45). Country is lv45. Revenge/Revenge
is lv5x.....

In an few levels above the kita, the UK player gets an BATTLESHIP. An properly out fitted
BB can sink 20DD if they ban TW, and the reason they don't make room like that is that
they can play in CL/CA/low BB and do reasonablely well there.


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Even though the EVIDENCE shows that
the high level players got there in USA and GERMAN and JAPANESE ships.
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BS

The Nelson, an lv70 BB, is out of stock and there is around a dozen players that have them
and an waiting list to get the ship. There is also three or so KGV and POW around.

On the other hand, There is only 2 IJN players that regularly play lv7x+ BB, and half a
dozen number of players in the US with the same.

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There is no way for the
UK to get massive exp quickly, because we have to get it by shooting and sinking 1 ship at
a time.
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except your guns are so uber that you can sink 1 ship with one shot.

Sinking 1 ship every 8 seconds isn't exactly slow...just look at the 14"
blockshooters...they do 100k+ damage if some CV don't kill them quick

  • Re : comparison of nations, and need for re-balancing

    10. 27. 2005 07:07

royalnavymat
"he new-fangled kids just unload 30 torpedos across a 75 degree arc and watch
30000 attack
points suddenly pop up."

Actually, I agree with this. Big gun fight >> Big torp fight.*mutters about Jutland*

  • Re : comparison of nations, and need for re-balancing

    10. 27. 2005 06:17

scudder
Yea, I remember how I cleaned up with my 'Tribal vs 40dds' games. Ahh, good times. I'd
rake in 20,000 experience, and do it again. And again.

And then when I got my level 80 battleship, when everyone else was at level 30, I'd
complain. Good times.

It might be easier, and funner to PLAY as British, but it's not as PROFITABLE. We do
things the old fashioned way, line em up, shoot em. It's fun, but slow.

The new-fangled kids just unload 30 torpedos across a 75 degree arc and watch 30000 attack
points suddenly pop up.

And those torpedos get the maximum experience you can get, because they're considered to
be 24" guns. And if you sink something at long range it's considered hitting with a 24"
gun at long range.

Good times.


And don't think I'm alone. As long as people out there are petitioning to harm British
ships, expect us Brit players to fight back. You think we're just going to bend over? By
the time level 80 comes around we will have earned some great ships. (and they're not all
that great! And there's not that many of them!)

So you want your ships improved, complain to NF about whats wrong with them. But you go
around trying to fuck up OTHER people's shit, that's just wrong. Mind your own business.

Or we'll all start complaining to NF about your ships, see how you like it, when you have
to worry that the next patch will screw your stuff up.

  • Re : comparison of nations, and need for re-balancing

    10. 27. 2005 05:34

royalnavymat
Hey Scudder, do you have a BO that is not british? I think, if you do, you will find that
is is way easier to play in UK DD than it is other country...

  • Re : comparison of nations, and need for re-balancing

    10. 27. 2005 05:32

scudder
People want to make their biased arguments for disarming the British (they never include
the weaknesses). I'm going to counter their propaganda with counter-propaganda. Got to
play their game by their rules.


So - why don't you see 3 and 4 bar British destroyers and CLs? Is it because Brits get
weak low level ships, while other nations get powerful low level ships? Why are the
highest level players invariably the ones with nations that torp whore the best? Co-incidence?

How many British ships could make a game called 'me versus all' and take their low-level
CL against 40 DDs, sink 20 of them, and start another game and do it again in less than 5
minutes?


I love my guns, love gunning, said that the first time.

That's right. Torp whoreing is what other countries get, and it levels them faster. Thus
they get to their level 80 BB before we get to our level 60 BB. So Brit ships need more
advantages to counter this horrible oversight.

  • Re : comparison of nations, and need for re-balancing

    10. 27. 2005 04:58

spartiate
I hope you're being sarcastic... Otherwise the KM players will start flaming you.

I am a fellow RN player, I am at level 67 on my York route BO.

Torps are not everything. Brit torps are the most powerful, but slowest. You should
be concentrating on guns. We have some amazing DD weapons. The single 6" pack
a punch and when using light HE have a comparable range to a cl1.

The Dido is mediocre but comes into its own with dual 6" and Sirius remodel.

The York is one of the most competent CAs in the game. I can't even be bothered
describing anything else, except our high level BBs such as Nelson, POW, KGV, QE
are hideously powerful. We have excellent Supports, Superior Armour etc etcetc blah
blah blah....

  • Re : comparison of nations, and need for re-balancing

    10. 27. 2005 04:54

SteelfireX
"Torpedos are 99% of the game, it's THE way to get
experience and levels."



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

erm...sry

Learn to gun man...guns are the main part of the game. Ppl only use torps when
they use auto or stink with aiming...

I can use a Q and own any dd who has torps except z99, whose 6.75 inch guns can
kill me.

I dont use torps at all on any ship and i own ships who are using torps, it is a matter
of learning to dodge well...

No offense, but with a thread like this you arent proving anything...

And they get all 3, better gun damage, better support and more support slots, and
better armor, not just one.
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