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Sailor Loans
04. 20. 2011 02:37

vick11	A couple of recent cases have involved problems where loaned sailors have been taken/removed/traded/dismissed/not returned. I have been asked to clarify to all that loaned sailors will not be forcibly recovered by TeamNF or SDE. This includes issues where sailors are loaned to a shared account and anyone with access to that account passes them on or even dismisses them. In effect, if you are not 100% sure of who you are lending your sailors to, or you cannot afford the risk of not getting them back, then it is advisable to reconsider the loan in the first instance.

vick11

A couple of recent cases have involved problems where loaned sailors have been
taken/removed/traded/dismissed/not returned. I have been asked to clarify to all
that
loaned sailors will not be forcibly recovered by TeamNF or SDE. This includes issues
where sailors are loaned to a shared account and anyone with access to that
account passes
them on or even dismisses them.

In effect, if you are not 100% sure of who you are lending your sailors to, or you
cannot
afford the risk of not getting them back, then it is advisable to reconsider the loan in
the first instance.

Re : Sailor Loans
04. 23. 2011 09:31

MrClueLess	Hey, there is a 1/10000 chance that they guess the second password... Lol.

Re : Sailor Loans
04. 23. 2011 08:53

Splid	"Also, once again, no second password given out. " Wow, this is a momentous occasion. One of the first EVER occurences of someone being hacked in NF... Do us all a favour...

Re : Sailor Loans
04. 23. 2011 07:18

clemo85	That is not answering my question. . . But thanks for the info!

Re : Sailor Loans
04. 23. 2011 07:16

vick11	If they share the first password that is account sharing.

Re : Sailor Loans
04. 23. 2011 06:55

clemo85	Vick you shouldn't even need to post this, you can't cure stupidity, you should know this best. yeah. . SDE is incurable! However you look at it vick, stolen sailors are stolen sailors and therefore should be returned to their rightful owner regardless of being on a shared account or not. <Side note> If no second password is given out (therefore only the account holder knows the second password) and somone manages to guess the second password, what would you define this as? Hacking? Or something else?

clemo85

*Vick you shouldn't even need to post this, you can't cure stupidity, you should know this
best. *

yeah. . SDE is incurable!

However you look at it vick, stolen sailors are stolen sailors and therefore should be
returned to their rightful owner regardless of being on a shared account or not.

<Side note>

If no second password is given out (therefore only the account holder knows the second
password) and somone manages to guess the second password, what would you define this as?
Hacking? Or something else?

Re : Sailor Loans
04. 23. 2011 04:27

vick11	Continual education is worth the effort though if it saves just one case.

Re : Sailor Loans
04. 23. 2011 00:21

Elliot2lazy	Vick you shouldn't even need to post this, you can't cure stupidity, you should know this best.

Re : Sailor Loans
04. 22. 2011 18:23

Champion7b	@Splid: :) unless you have visual proof of them saying they were in full knowledge about the sailor at the time of purchase, which is the case here, then yeah it would be hard to get someone to admit that. Then again, you have to remember, some people are not very bright, and sometimes that works out in favor of justice. Like I said though, you would have to have the full story to understand how well documented this all was. Also, once again, no second password given out.

Champion7b

@Splid: :) unless you have visual proof of them saying they were in full knowledge about
the sailor at the time of purchase, which is the case here, then yeah it would be hard to
get someone to admit that. Then again, you have to remember, some people are not very
bright, and sometimes that works out in favor of justice. Like I said though, you would
have to have the full story to understand how well documented this all was. Also, once
again, no second password given out.

Re : Sailor Loans
04. 22. 2011 16:10

Splid	People who give out PWs and SECOND PWs and come back to find their stuff gone deserve all they get... As for trading sailors, you would be very hard pressed to find evidence that someone bought sailors knowing they were "stolen" or otherwise. Where will that evidence come from? The person selling the stolen goods who wants to implicate themselves, or the person buying the stolen goods who wants to implicate themself?

Splid

People who give out PWs and SECOND PWs and come back to find their stuff gone deserve all
they get...

As for trading sailors, you would be very hard pressed to find evidence that someone
bought sailors knowing they were "stolen" or otherwise. Where will that evidence come
from? The person selling the stolen goods who wants to implicate themselves, or the
person buying the stolen goods who wants to implicate themself?

Re : Sailor Loans
04. 22. 2011 14:29

Sindher	is that before or after we get a brand new HA system, brand new website...should I go on?

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