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  • New Nations French/Italian/Russian

    11. 19. 2006 20:23

Rengokuy
Please Restickey!

Granted by Angus725 *dated March 24th, 2011*

---------------------------I was right-------------------------

Trees (to large to post, copy paste into your browser)
*ignore French and Italian DD lines, they are being changed
France - http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i211/Rengokuy/FrenchTree.jpg
Italy - http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i211/Rengokuy/ItalyTree.jpg
Russia - http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i211/Rengokuy/RussiaTree.jpg

*Updating ships to match the trees
Edit - Richelieu remodel to Jean Bart, not Gascagone
Edit - Bearn remodel to Joffre (as they have same capacity, one just trades
armor/armament
for speed)

-for people who want to know the capabilities of the guns, nearly all are found on
this website http://www.navweaps.com/


(boring intro section, scroll past to get to the ships and pretty pictures)
Short and Sweet, the French and Italians had good strong navies during WWII.
Both would be workable into the current game, ideally as their own nation, using
their own crews.

The French Navy would be a speedy one at that. Range would be rather long,
either equal to or a bit farther than most german guns at level. French DD's will be
some of the best in game, each with high damaging, fast firing guns. CL's and CA's
would be fast hard hitters that don't present much of a target, but they will be very
vulnrable to shell fire as they didn't mount much armor, a problem remidied in the
BB's. The French carriers would all be rather slow, their aircraft typical until higher
levels. BB's would all be above average, with long firing guns. (don't let the PBB
Dunkerque fool you, they had much better range than that)
Richelieu's guns had a longer range than the Iowa's.
All battleships would be capable of defending themselves from aircraft as well.

As for the Italian Navy, it would be a nation of Cruisers and AA guns. Heavy and Light
Cruisers would be the strongest of any nation in the game. DD's would be a trick to
use. All would have few mounts (usually only 2 or 3) but remain the same size as
other nations DD's. BB's would be typical until higher levels when they improve
drastically. Italian Carriers would be tend to have a little less plane space than their
counterparts, but be able to equip much heavier armament. Italian guns in general
had very long ranges, even over german guns. This was achieved at the grave price
of short barrel lives. The FCS system was very effective, tight salvos are to be
expected. Armor would be rated in giving about 20% stronger than the USN armor.

The Russian navy. Well, they will be very interesting indeed. Right from the beginning
they get very fast destroyers with considerably heavy armament. Russian cruisers
will be a bit more difficult to use. Their armament usually lighter than ships of the
same weight, their only advantages being tight salvos and small profiles. The
Russian battleships will be, for lack of better words, terrors to fight. The early on
ones based of the Gangut class, they are small targets with a lot of guns, the only
disadvantage being lack of AA defense, a problem remedied at the BB4 and 5 level,
the ships here built in practice with current US ones (iowa and montana). Even their
aircraft carriers are well armed, each making good speed and decent capacity. As for
their aircrafts, figters will be good, but bombs and torpedoes relativily weak.
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  • Re : New Nations French/Italian/Russian

    11. 17. 2008 15:22

DHamant
I haven't read all the posts but, I'd say good job except for one MAJOR FLAW:
The Navies of the Italians, French, and Russians PUT TOGETHER, would not even be
a match for the Americans. I mean, the Iowas were the most nasty ships around.
There was no French ship that could even come CLOSE to matching the Iowa in a
fight.
To even to try to make ANY French (and especially Italian) BB any where near the
current Naval BB lineups WOULD BE STUPID. The French ships would simply be
blown way out of their realistic (and actual) proportions.
And 20" inch guns on a SUB?!?!? That is the dumbest idea I've ever heard. Not only
would the shells do less damage than torps, but they also NEVER be able to fire 5-6
before the target ship returned fire.
Excellent research, TERRIBLE idea.

  • Re : New Nations French/Italian/Russian

    11. 17. 2008 13:36

fromage
BUMP!

373 recs isn't ENOUGH! w00t

  • Re : New Nations French/Italian/Russian

    11. 16. 2008 10:07

woody083
The french would have to camouflage their ships to appear that they have already been hit
and about to sink.

  • Re : New Nations French/Italian/Russian

    11. 16. 2008 06:55

MB_Ricardo
?

  • Re : New Nations French/Italian/Russian

    11. 03. 2008 17:02

PanzerBlade
Good Sir, you just won billions of INTERNETS!! CONGRATZ!!!

  • Re : New Nations French/Italian/Russian

    11. 03. 2008 13:21

loliamapie
man this post is huge but anyway ill always think if they well ever do this would
they?

  • Re : New Nations French/Italian/Russian

    11. 03. 2008 03:49

Jeepin
bumpage =D well its sorta on the way ;)

  • Re : New Nations French/Italian/Russian

    11. 01. 2008 17:31

bluenova123
The way this sounds is froget the original nations they will suck especaly km doto all
will out damage and range it, and us do to they will be faster better rate of fire and
hit harder + range.

PS:I like it just sounds over powered.

  • Re : New Nations French/Italian/Russian

    10. 30. 2008 07:47

DukeZero
AWESOMENISSS!!

THis Is Amazing Hopefully Some New Nation Will Be Implemeted Sooner after Sub anyways....

Good Job!

Rec+

  • Re : New Nations French/Italian/Russian

    10. 30. 2008 06:38

straswa
Nice update. Great work.

Looking forward to seeing the French ships in game soon, and other ships to follow.
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