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  • italian OP guns....

    01. 25. 2014 23:06


BigHarold
Please can you balance guns italian BB2-4 have 100% armor penetration and dmg with HE. They have mutch bigger penetration then nagato with angle 43 and 16.1 inch or yamato... I test it on King George V with 11.5 and Queen Victory with 10.5 on deck. QV, italian BB5, BB6, gernam 14,96 inch, BB4, BB5 (gernam) or UK lower then 16 inch, US ship BB4 and lower dont have chance penetrate this armor... but italian with 12 inch have 100% penetrate this armor. german have 11 inch with 40 angles and they dont have chance penetrate this armor and have 30 % of dmg per shell... I think its little unbalanced and unfair.... I dont test soviet and france ships but I think it was similar like japanes or US navy... can you look on it?

 

  • Re : italian OP guns....

    01. 28. 2014 15:57


ForcedPlayer

Maybe, I might be wrong then. I have not play the caio lately. Either way what i'm saying is that it's not that painful compare to Fuso's gun. Those can bring L1 down to yellow/orange DP. 

  • Re : italian OP guns....

    01. 28. 2014 18:59


richardphat

I told you were exagerating, you kept going for it.

To make me go that far and prove you are wrong, that is really bad.

1st part unarmoured in case people don't read the annotation.

Second part  9,3" deck armour.

 

  • Re : italian OP guns....

    01. 28. 2014 23:07


BigHarold

Originally Posted by ForcedPlayer

Maybe, I might be wrong then. I have not play the caio lately. Either way what i'm saying is that it's not that painful compare to Fuso's gun. Those can bring L1 down to yellow/orange DP. 

you cant compare fuso guns with italians... because fuso have 14 inch with 43 degree... they give this dmg try deal this dmg on 30 degree...

richard you test only one ship with one gun setup... meybe BB4 dont have so big penetration but he still have mutch bigger DMG then other nation with same caliber... and mutch bigger penetreation then onther nation with this caliber... you must compare these guns with other nation not only in your had... because you make one test

 

its true then I test it on italian ebb4

I know it's hard to admit unbalance these guns when you play it... I wish you that you played before the Germans six years. Because you was know what that means old nations 

  • Re : italian OP guns....

    01. 29. 2014 00:17


ForcedPlayer

In my POV, I think you just want to nerf the italian rather even more. I don't know your reason for it, could be that you don't have the line or you always got pawn in it or etc. richardphat already prove and you still denying it. Come on videos/fact are all up. Maybe its time to accept the fact ? 

  • Re : italian OP guns....

    01. 29. 2014 00:54


BigHarold

Originally Posted by ForcedPlayer

In my POV, I think you just want to nerf the italian rather even more. I don't know your reason for it, could be that you don't have the line or you always got pawn in it or etc. richardphat already prove and you still denying it. Come on videos/fact are all up. Maybe its time to accept the fact ? 


I dont know why you dont accept the fact then italians guns are overpowered... and everybody know it... I just dont understand why you so hard defending it... (oh sorry I know why :) just play this noob mode :))

I want play this nation but not like a noob... I want play it after balance... everybody know its unbalanced but only italian players dont want nerf

everbody know that all italian guns need balancer start from single guns sets on CL (range like BB4) ending on 12.6 inch guns sets on BBs

I thnik this is end of discusion....

  • Re : italian OP guns....

    01. 29. 2014 07:38


ForcedPlayer

Sorry. I got all the nations. Guess what, I also have IJN as my 1st line and yes I like IJN so much that I prefer IJN than RM. I am not defending. I am simply stating the fact. Just that the fact that you don't want to level because if you level those sailors its a big hassle and if you want to buy its too expensive. That's what I guess. If not you wouldn't want to keep attacking RM even though it is already balanced as what richardphat stated. 

  • Re : italian OP guns....

    01. 29. 2014 08:53


BigHarold

Originally Posted by ForcedPlayer

Sorry. I got all the nations. Guess what, I also have IJN as my 1st line and yes I like IJN so much that I prefer IJN than RM. I am not defending. I am simply stating the fact. Just that the fact that you don't want to level because if you level those sailors its a big hassle and if you want to buy its too expensive. That's what I guess. If not you wouldn't want to keep attacking RM even though it is already balanced as what richardphat stated. 

 

well said to someone who has the intelligence of a rocking horse, asserting that the RM guns are unbalanced, is like saying that the earth is flat ... because the fact is that BB5 and BB6 are balanced, but other ships are not, such as BB is less than CL, unreasonable damage to the shell, eg guns for BB4 (2000 dmg per shell) ... fastest speed of shells or fasters reload ... CL guns with range of BB4 and I can continue ... but I think everybody know true ... and is true then RM need balance ... BB4 is only Andrea Doria with diferent name ...

 

This is my last post, because people here what prevents balance are only players who can not play for the old nations. And they're all such BB6 does not mean that you can play for them. it would be better if you have the energy to devote to it that you learned to play before than you sat on the most newbie nation, I just want balance because its realy unbalanced ... Im out, no more comments from me.


 
I think I said everything I needed, because it is on the individual how to figure it

  • Re : italian OP guns....

    01. 29. 2014 09:25


richardphat

 

TBH, since you are the one asking, you should be the one testing. Because you are making false claim just because of 1-2 broken gunset and blame the whole nation.

 

Further, you don't look outside of the box, you are paranoid about the shell caliber stat. Forget it! Forget it. It's how a ship performs at the end of the day within the tier.

You are basically telling me that a RM BB4  doing 36k damage is just too much....

 

You know if I wanted to screw Italian, I could make a 20" shells doing less than a heavy cruiser 8".

 

  • Re : italian OP guns....

    01. 29. 2014 12:08


ForcedPlayer

Mr bigharold, you said everybody know RM is unbalance. Well almost up to know all i see is just you me and richardphat replying. No others replying. Me is saying is balance and richardphat said it's balanced and proven. There you still ignorantly denying it's broken. Every ship has it's own advantage and disadvantage. If you can't sink RM BB then maybe something is wrong with your play style. Look at your own play style and improve on it. I personally have sunk rm bbs. I've seen you in Hyuga and KM EBB and IJN Yamato. Use the range man !!! No point rushing in and got sunk by rm bb then whine that it's unbalance. Also know your angle. 

  • Re : italian OP guns....

    01. 31. 2014 00:50


BigHarold

Originally Posted by ForcedPlayer

Mr bigharold, you said everybody know RM is unbalance. Well almost up to know all i see is just you me and richardphat replying. No others replying. Me is saying is balance and richardphat said it's balanced and proven. There you still ignorantly denying it's broken. Every ship has it's own advantage and disadvantage. If you can't sink RM BB then maybe something is wrong with your play style. Look at your own play style and improve on it. I personally have sunk rm bbs. I've seen you in Hyuga and KM EBB and IJN Yamato. Use the range man !!! No point rushing in and got sunk by rm bb then whine that it's unbalance. Also know your angle. 

if you seen me on these ships you must know then Im ending game with the one of biggest attack on team... I dont have problem with sink it... I just say what I seen...

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