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again zgl
03. 29. 2020 12:33
lindsay
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how is it possible that this fleet will win us a port with 3 bb that they had with 10 of us 15 minutes from finishing the hd. without skytrain we were gaining the port and it appears that we lost .... we demand an explanation from the gm .... that they explain to us how this is possible .... it is in sight and there are images that prove that it is impossible unless they use hack ....
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Re : again zgl
04. 19. 2020 16:18
bestofchill
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@ Lindsay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnFFhFIu_mQ&t=20s
. Watch the Video...look in HT my View about the harbour.... First battle the Harbour has 100%,and than look at the 2th Battle... 3% maybe we had the same Problem..(Main Topic here)
But our GM´s are AFK.
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Re : again zgl
04. 19. 2020 18:05
Genera
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lol, again. Nobody really complains that much about bugusing besides those few players. Well, Lindsay does but he perfectly knows it can't be helped. Therefore i don't care what osn is pointing out, if he wants good harbor games then stop diplomacy and play on your own. For me, the inconsistency is that several fleets that joined another still formally exist instead of being removed once and for all. Anyway, just deal with the fact the bugs will be used in all your next harbor games until it gets fixed. I have one account only and i won't support anybody unless someone shows up and proves he is worth investing my time.
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Re : again zgl
04. 19. 2020 21:15
lindsay
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Look guys, I am going to tell you the same thing that we were told in the Chinese forum to say something finding about the ZGL, they are going to cry for FIFA, next week ask bamf, osp, to help them, they have 10 players because they merged with bamf (another fleet that I use hack and bug all my life), and I am going to tell you the same thing that they told me in the week, we are going to defend with 10 guys ... stop crying .... and play quietly ...
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Re : again zgl
04. 19. 2020 21:22
lindsay
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osn, you talk about honesty and in the week they told me that they were 15 players and yesterday you had a full room, how honest is that? with 15 players do not work with our people during the week, apart from that time is bad for us ... your fleet does not have 35 active players ... so do not fill your mouth talking about honesty ...
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Re : again zgl
04. 19. 2020 21:29
lindsay
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Bedtofchil, Correct, with respect to the first battle, I tire skytrain, and I did almost half the damage, but some players said that the port was complete, others said that only little damage was done, and in the following battle or I think the Third, the port was a touch away ... but we did not create that with hacking or something else, it appeared like this, this has been claimed long ago by our GMs, and if they do nothing as players we are screwed, the same thing happens to us to us with the uk port ..... but hey, there are errors and errors too ... and you have to live with that ....
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Re : again zgl
04. 19. 2020 21:50
osn3179
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Originally Posted by lindsay
osn, you talk about honesty and in the week they told me that they were 15 players and yesterday you had a full room, how honest is that? with 15 players do not work with our people during the week, apart from that time is bad for us ... your fleet does not have 35 active players ... so do not fill your mouth talking about honesty ...
Are you a normal person? Do you think everyone should adapt to your perception of reality? What do I need to warn you how many people will come to defend the harbor?
To date, 73 people are members of the RA, some of them play often, some rarely, and some very rarely. Yesterday, people wanted to come and play HD in their old fleet. Whose problem is that this did not coincide with your desire to seize the harbor without a fight? If your wishes did not materialize, do you think that gives you the right to use the exploit as a last resort ?? You are a bug user and a scammer, you openly admit it!
I repeat once again, using fraud with bugs you will remain in this game together with the det_ka and Kurapika, the three of you will hold 3 harbors and attack each other with PVP, because no one has the desire to watch your idiotic shows using exploit. You will killing this game with your stupid actions.
There is no crying! There is a cry of a topic start on this topic, I just showed the absurdity and deceit of everything that Chilean players wrote 2 pages above. You are the same scammers as ZGL and are no better than them, because you use the exploit for imaginary victories.
I have no claim to desync in the 1st and 2nd battles in the harbor. This is an old mistake of the game, this happens ... But I have exact confirmation that in the intermediate battles APA several times seized the room outside southern border of the map. We have no doubt that the assholes from Omegas did this.
Also, in 3rd battle in the harbor with CV6 Khinox, skytrains were launched outside the northern border of the map, I personally saw and heard them when they returned to the map on A1. CV itself was on J1, I attached the screenshot in another topic.
Chilie fleet are scammers and exploit users.
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Re : again zgl
04. 19. 2020 22:12
osn3179
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Originally Posted by Genera
lol, again. Nobody really complains that much about bugusing besides those few players. Well, Lindsay does but he perfectly knows it can't be helped. Therefore i don't care what osn is pointing out, if he wants good harbor games then stop diplomacy and play on your own. For me, the inconsistency is that several fleets that joined another still formally exist instead of being removed once and for all. Anyway, just deal with the fact the bugs will be used in all your next harbor games until it gets fixed. I have one account only and i won't support anybody unless someone shows up and proves he is worth investing my time.
I play in the harbor, almost always, and you can also meet me in GB at least 1 time per week. Diplomacy does not stop me from playing.
73 people from RA will consider the matter with your wish "being removed once and for all." But I suppose that their opinion will be approximately as follows: "remove yourself, because you are a are a useless asshole and do not know how to play without using an exploit."
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Re : again zgl
04. 19. 2020 23:39
Sidumbledore
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Originally Posted by lindsay
Bedtofchil, Correct, with respect to the first battle, I tire skytrain, and I did almost half the damage, but some players said that the port was complete, others said that only little damage was done, and in the following battle or I think the Third, the port was a touch away ... but we did not create that with hacking or something else, it appeared like this, this has been claimed long ago by our GMs, and if they do nothing as players we are screwed, the same thing happens to us to us with the uk port ..... but hey, there are errors and errors too ... and you have to live with that ....
From the screenshots, videos, and what people are saying in our forum, what you said is correct and fine UNTIL one of your cv sent skytrain out of the border in the 3rd harbor tile battle. Desyn is something we all need to live with but to intentionally send the skytrain out of the border to avoid fighters, this is an exploit. If you are in the Chili fleet leadership, please look into that.
Also, in our forum, people are saying APA was sent out of the south border in D1 battle. See the video posted by bestochill (1st battle around 11 min that game lost because of that).
We should all stop players who intentionally use bugs and exploits. When there is evidence, warn them and kick them out of the fleet if needed. Or, the fleet will be labeled as cheating. Players will start to leave.
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Re : again zgl
04. 19. 2020 23:46
Sidumbledore
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Originally Posted by Genera
lol, again. Nobody really complains that much about bugusing besides those few players. Well, Lindsay does but he perfectly knows it can't be helped. Therefore i don't care what osn is pointing out, if he wants good harbor games then stop diplomacy and play on your own. For me, the inconsistency is that several fleets that joined another still formally exist instead of being removed once and for all. Anyway, just deal with the fact the bugs will be used in all your next harbor games until it gets fixed. I have one account only and i won't support anybody unless someone shows up and proves he is worth investing my time.
By your logic, it is ok to use bugs and exploits because they are not fixed. Ok. I get it. But that is only you.
I complain about people using bugs and exploits because I want to make this game fun and fair for all players. As a community, we decide what we want this game to be. Alhough GM will not fix these bugs nor ban players who use these bugs, we as fleets playing HA battles can police our own fleet members. When all fleets stop and ban players who use bugs and exploits, these bugs and exploits will cease to affect gameplay (= bugs being fixed).
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Re : again zgl
04. 20. 2020 00:42
Genera
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Originally Posted by Sidumbledore
By your logic, it is ok to use bugs and exploits because they are not fixed. Ok. I get it. But that is only you.
I complain about people using bugs and exploits because I want to make this game fun and fair for all players. As a community, we decide what we want this game to be. Alhough GM will not fix these bugs nor ban players who use these bugs, we as fleets playing HA battles can police our own fleet members. When all fleets stop and ban players who use bugs and exploits, these bugs and exploits will cease to affect gameplay (= bugs being fixed).
Sid, i have never told that using bugs is alright. I have never used those. I only told, that bugusing WILL NOT stop because there will always be some people who want exploit the gameplay. Some bad things will not change because such is life and such are people. And you can do nothing about that. You can only enter some restrictions in your own fleet. But i think it won't help much. You only have to wait until bugs are fixed. You can tell your RA fleetmate (since his secondary account is in your fleet) that in his incredible act of ignorance forgot that even if i would want to use any of those HA bugs i'm not able to use those HA bugs because i'm not in any fleet anymore. And i stated that before. Paraphrasing Cato, i will repeat: Furthermore, I consider that Russian Alliance must be destroyed.
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