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  • A great Battle room mode between lvl 60 and lvl 89

    06. 27. 2011 02:37

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Baker654
The problem with great battle is that low tier Battleship and Carriers who come out of blitz suddently have to face fullonslaught of much more powerful ships and fighter planes. For most new capital ship players this also unberable as they become easy targets for tier 5 and 6 battleships, and their planes swatted out of the sky by tier 4 fighters, and to top all of thisthe high tier battleships hog all the kills. This for low tier capital ship player that in order to get high tier battleships of their own they would have to go through one of the longest grinds and have to get chewed up for it. For most low tier capital ship players this is almost unberable and most quit in frustation the game reducing the numbers of online players. Also high tier ship player complain about the lower tier ship players leaching XP.

To possibly solve this problem how about a great battle style game that is more hospitable for players that are between lvl 60 and 89. This means that low tier ship players can actually have a fun time playing great battle when they are against players that are closer to their own level and they dont have to worry about some lion 2 eating all the possible  kills or their Zeros getting shot down by Mustangs. Also the amount of credits rewarded would be much higher than it is in  great battle 2 and 1. This will affect the Orginal Great Battle Rooms as there will be less low tier ship players filling out  the battle rosters reducing the number of Great Battle and Great Battle 2. However this will also means that there will be more high tier battleships and carrier players in Great Battle and Great Battle 2 rooms creating more of a challange and therefore more fun for high tier players

 

  • Re : A great Battle room mode between lvl 60 and lvl 89

    07. 01. 2011 20:05


BBpepper
There is an establishment that is 100% against making this idea or a Blitz II room for the simple reason is would take away there easy FOOD and make them fight other BB4s,5s and 6s that is why you have so many Veterns of this game against it.

  • Re : A great Battle room mode between lvl 60 and lvl 89

    07. 01. 2011 20:14


heatrr
Originally Posted by BBpepper
There is an establishment that is 100% against making this idea or a Blitz II room for the simple reason is would take away there easy FOOD and make them fight other BB4s,5s and 6s that is why you have so many Veterns of this game against it.


What makes you or anyone else advocating Blitz II or a level 60+ to level 89 GB think they are any better than those mass of players that came before you and were "food" when they first entered the world outside of BLITZ? Nothing.

Methinks most of you are pampered little whiners looking for the easy way to BB6/CV6.

Furthermore, methinks that if SDE would sell complete BB6/CV6 crews, you little wimps looking for an easy road to success would spend every bit of your unearned allowance money to buy them...you know, taking the easy road ... to failure, cause you would still be "easy FOOD"! =.=

  • Re : A great Battle room mode between lvl 60 and lvl 89

    07. 01. 2011 20:33


BBpepper
Originally Posted by heatrr
Originally Posted by BBpepper
There is an establishment that is 100% against making this idea or a Blitz II room for the simple reason is would take away there easy FOOD and make them fight other BB4s,5s and 6s that is why you have so many Veterns of this game against it.


What makes you or anyone else advocating Blitz II or a level 60+ to level 89 GB think they are any better than those mass of players that came before you and were "food" when they first entered the world outside of BLITZ? Nothing.

Methinks most of you are pampered little whiners looking for the easy way to BB6/CV6.

Furthermore, methinks that if SDE would sell complete BB6/CV6 crews, you little wimps looking for an easy road to success would spend every bit of your unearned allowance money to buy them...you know, taking the easy road ... to failure, cause you would still be "easy FOOD"! =.=


what we got here is someone instead of answering with well thought out reasons aginst this idea he lashes out with hate and personal insults showing he true lack civilized behavior.Well with this Low I.Q. response i shouldn't be surprised....

  • Re : A great Battle room mode between lvl 60 and lvl 89

    07. 01. 2011 21:16


BBpepper
Originally Posted by Falcon91
I'm with heatrr on this one.

This is the second bad suggestion within the first two weeks of the site. If you notice there is a BB room that you can play for lower level ships, but no one chooses to play them.

You complain about getting 1 shotted and being outclassed, how do you think the vets and beta players felt like when we got nuked by bb4's back when they came out? Or by the bb5's on there release? You didn't hear us up in arms and bitchin our heads off. We developed our own strategies to be able to defeat the enemy ships and coordinate with the bigger ships to attack, today do you see smaller ships doing that? No you do not.

All you have to blame is yourselves for not familiarizing yourselves with a group of players and learning there playstyle and adapting it to your ship so it'll best fit the role your playing.



I know how to use my BB5 with manual with ease that is not the point.The point is this game is about FUN not about a strict set of playing styles. What harm is it to make a Blitz II? if this game is going to survive it needs to be more friendly to new players instead of defending the status quo.I have been playing this game about 3 yrs now i have had alot of fun and i have no probs with using diffrent palying styles and manual aim.Look i am a big fan of GB2 i play it alot but like i said earlier there is no harm in making a Blitz II it benifits those players who might not be that good at this game but play it for fun but that player base will not last unless they are given other means.This game will not survive without these players and that is not good for us all.

  • Re : A great Battle room mode between lvl 60 and lvl 89

    07. 01. 2011 21:46


joshmon999
Lol. I wouldn't have expected any other answer from you. You dont even deny it. Its strictly a food thing, nothing more. And don't think I referring to myself, I have BB3, CV2, and SS4, and I enjoy playing all 3 just as things stand.
But a lot of people have a hard time making the jump, and you are terrified of having BB players come into GB with any more skill than they have now, regardless of what you may say. Again, your negative, selfish attitude does nothing for the game, either in its mass appeal, or its ease of learning. News Flash : Some people just want to play a game and have fun, and like to compete in brackets where there is some chance f success for them. Every other game I can think of is set up this way, to gradually increase difficulty, to ease transition and make the experience less frustrating and more rewarding.
Except this one. Only reason why? Apparently a food issue. None denies it. Back in Beta, a certain type of player took control of the path of this game, and resist ANY change that might challenge their supremacy, or invalidate their struggle to gain it. So basically any idea you may have that could help smooth out the learning process, or do anything else, without requiring a single rule change or tweak, they will still veto it out of hand, and how dare we suggest that lvl 120 vs lvl 60 is unfair? Or unfun? You can say all you want about fair, or ability, but the gamers in general have obviously decided to skip NF because , thanks to folks just like you, a lot of times it can be downright un-fun.
So far the only reason I have heard for not allowing level changes to GB is ' we had to'. I wish someone would man up and just admit it. Say:" I disagree with this suggestion since I am an endgame player, and dont want to compete with all similar levels because it will be too difficult for me to get the huge xp I get now. SInce I suck, I need a steady diet of new players to rape , then verbally abuse when they express frustration or suggest positive changes. I am too ignorant, and lack the emotional or intellectual maturity to empathize even a little bit with any other player, since I devote much of my life to this game, and need to derive most of my personal validation from it. If forced to compete on an even field, my lack of skill will become apparent, so I veto this suggestion"

  • Re : A great Battle room mode between lvl 60 and lvl 89

    07. 01. 2011 22:13


holyBlaze
Originally Posted by Falcon91
@josh talkin to me?

I openly disagree with it cause i've earned my way up 3 times to 100+

From beta till 2005 i had a ark royal with a 100+ crew and a sodak all on a silver account before gold was totally introduced. Since i had my account whiped after a ban, i came back and leveled from 1 to 120 with multiple CV crews in between on mostly silver and gold standard accounts. I'm not coming out and going i disagree because i'm a endgame player, by no means AM I a end game player i'm still grinding up a crew.

Yes this mode would make it easier, but would it increase the skill in the community? Would it teach important lessons? No is the answer to both of those, there would be more bashing from "level 89 elitist" You would have the old vets or as you say "endgame players" Level new crews just to piss you guys off do you not realize this?

In the end all i'm saying it adding another mode will just split the community even more skill level will drop more people will get pissed off and frustrated with the game and leave.


Also 120 doesn't mean uber skill if you played long enough you should know that some level 60 players have more skill then 120's will ever have -_-


I honestly think that making a new playing mode will

a. not decrease the skill significantly and even increase it since people will actually be DOING SOMETHING rather than sitting around in GB 2 doing that 1 dmg to get exp.

b. Makes the game a lot more fun and competitive with less extremely mind numbing grinding

Also about the part about veteran players making new crews at least they will be using the same lvl ships with the same range rather than a BB5/6 with 50% range than a BB1-2 and 1 shot capability.

I can not believe that a new playing mode will "divide" the community- How would it happen? I think more people will be pissed off and leave if they have to grind for 30+ lvls than playing games with others with the same lvled crews and ships

  • Re : A great Battle room mode between lvl 60 and lvl 89

    07. 01. 2011 22:54


BBpepper
Its more of the same i"I had to work my arse off for my BB6 so should you" well i am not going to fight that because i agree with in part BUT what you guys are not paying attention too is that the numbers of new players leaving NF because of lack of the "Fun Factor" ya know this just a game it shouldn't be so strict it should be about the Fun and without fun how is Nf going to last without new players? why not bend a little give them a fight chance to enjoy the game otherwise NF will fade away.....

  • Re : A great Battle room mode between lvl 60 and lvl 89

    07. 02. 2011 07:12


joshmon999
Originally Posted by Falcon91
@blaze and bb

Pepper first off your a idiot, yes i did say to an extent earn your bb6 but you failed to read my entire point.

Blaze your a idiot you also failed to get the point of my post, why not reread it before you post.

Also you say the vets will be in the same ships? A lot of us bring second BO's up all the original idea stated was BO CAPS NOT CREW CAPS. You also seem to forget that you can bring a colorado in with the triple 16D's highly vetted gunners BVE'd and get a nice spread and one shot a good amount of ships up to a bb5 actually. Don't believe me go test it.

As i said all i see is the fact that there isn't a crew cap limit on there, so basically guys like me would come down and ruin this mode for you to piss you off since it's flawed. Yes i would be that much of a arsehole, i'm in that mood today to show you that there is massive flaws in this plan.

You also act like i'm a elitest, there's no way in hell i am. I play for fun since i have a group of players that i play with find that group have fun bullshit while your waiting for battle and make strategies within, your making it quite obvious you don't know what basic strategy is.



Lol, I wasnt talking to you before, but I am now. You say it in the first sentence, "I had to come up 3 times the hard way to 100+, so should you. " Thats like saying hey , lets leave the game in Beta, since all the beta testers had to deal with a broken product, not fully developed. Truth is, none of you guys will just copy paste hwat I wrote for you, nor can you deny it. And saying the endgame players would come down and ruin it out of spite? Thats even MORE childish, and Im surprised you would say something so immature in public, or be proud as you seem of it. Truth is, you couldnt do crap but come into the battle with a crew that was top level, or level a crew into it. And then you would just be another at-lvl player. All you would have is your 'strategy" and 'tactics' to give you an advantage. And that pisses you off, and probably scares you. What will you do when all the competition is at your level? Yeah, thought so. So cry about it all you want, nothing anyone ha said against this idea is any more than "Waaaaaa , we had to , so should you" Many disagree. Noone here is whining but you top dogs, just like you do any time you sense something that might upset your little dinner table. Not to mention that doing this would solve many of the things you guys all complain about all the time > Such As: In a GB2 lvl 101-120, you would still have SS, and still have BB /CV cap, so the quality of the AA and ASW would go thru the roof, actually , lol, I see this as a worst case scenario for SS, which is another thing you guys whine about constantly. But then,, you wouldnt be able to cry 'nerf op ss" anymore, so I guess that would suck for you to not be able to blame you failure to adapt to a changing game on SS being OP. You wonder why NONE of the Biggest dogs who post all over this forum have posted to disagree except you to? Because its a good idea, good for the game good for the player base, and will increase endgame ability, and the overall learning curve of the game. And those guys arent worried, because they are all truly skilled layers who arent worried about at lvl competition, or losing the easy meal. In any lvl bracket they usually dominate fairly well. Only people who fear a higher lvl of overall skill would protest this.

  • Re : A great Battle room mode between lvl 60 and lvl 89

    07. 02. 2011 16:09


joshmon999
Yeah, I will make sure I use an entire empty line between every sentence for you from now on.

I'm still not sure where you think that skill will go down, or people will suddenly "fly through" lvl 61-100 by not getting one shotted.

I figure a person can learn the skills a bit easier by actually getting to fire shot that hit, duking it out, maneuvering and keeping scouts up , etc.

This doesn't seem like it will hamper the learning process, and I believe it would help a bit, and also up the fun level.

And you suggest that I am angry, no way man.

I just see a great idea and some silly negative comments ensue, and I really couldn't stay out of it.

I didn't suggest you "couldn't do anything about it", yes, you could load up a lvl 99 crew, if you happen to have one, and go into it with every advantage possible with the aim to grief them all for not letting you use a BB6 to do it? LAWLZ

Pretty sure any lvl 60-70 player would rather take his chances with the lvl 90-99 adversaries than the HoF crews.

It would improve the skill level of endgame players, present very skilled ASW and AA teams to the lvl 101-120 brackett, make it a hell of a lot smoother grind , and more fun, thus maybe bringing in and keeping some new fresh players.

But if we just activated the lvl selection for ANY lvls , then this would be even better, since the BB6 players could still host, and set it from 80-120 or 90-120, and keep a god quality player in their games with near zero noob factor.

Come to think of it, why wouldn't you want a tool to cut out the noobiest of all players? You could set a game for lvl 40-120, and not even deal with under lvl 40 players, thus cutting the amount of leeching, and totally green players.

They would have no choice to do anything but blitz.

My last point, I'm not even referring to myself in any of this other than the fun thing. I play all my ship lines and have a ton of fun. The way things are. Would be more fun for a more even grind, but it is still tons of fun, thats why I play. I am more thinking of new players, or people trying to learn.

So whatever, you shouldnt take anything I've said personally, this is a game, and nobody is trying to start any kind of fight here. Just putting in my $3.50

  • Re : A great Battle room mode between lvl 60 and lvl 89

    07. 02. 2011 18:08


BBpepper
Originally Posted by Falcon91
1 thing you fail to realize, i don't play my bb6 that often....I play my Alaska/Guam more often then my BB6. I prefer ships that actually take skill instead of easy mode, also thank you for spacing a bit there was a lot more readable on that point.

I do understand it is your opinion as mine is my opinion, we can agree to disagree. Really at first i didn't want to get into it with you due to you were making good comments and had a strong opinion on the side..which is probably what you saw in mine ad you debate quite well i might add.

But blaze and pepper did bypass quite a bit of my points do we agree on this one?


Ok first you'll get no respect by name calling try to keep it out of the sand box please and grow up.I did read your points but it mostly about how you guys had to work your arses off in the old day when NF had alot of issues but i Also see your points BUT you Failed to prove to me how making Blitz II room is the wrong way to go.Ok i guess you'll respond with more insults but please don't lecture me on how to play NF i've been playing for about 3yrs alot of fun in those years and i want to see NF last for years down the road.

Here are some of my Ideas off the top of my head

1 Make a Blitz II Cap Lv 82 or 75 wich ever

2 Give a Normal the Exp reward as GB2-This is the easiest way i think

ok now insult away........

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