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  • Using inactive fleet to protect harbor

    10. 14. 2019 13:17


Sidumbledore

I do not want to get into fleet politics but I must ask this.  Why does fleet use inactive fleets to declare on its own harbor to protect it?  This is a common tactic used by Omega.  I understand that the HA time overlap is a strange situation in the new server.  But, this tactic of using an inactive fleet for sham declaration is unfair and takes away other fleet's right to play HA/HD.  If a fleet cannot play two HA/HD games that overlap in the same time zone, do not hold two harbors in that time zone.  Some fleets and players consider this as one fleet trying to control what HA/HD game other fleets can play by this type of manipulations.  Think about if someone creates sham fleets to declare on all harbors to completely shut down the HA/HD games, you will say that it is not acceptable because this takes away other fleet's rights to play HA/HD.  By the same logic, using inactive fleets for sham declaration is not an acceptable behavior.  If you do not have time, resource, or interest to defend, then, do not defend (for any reason including overlap HA/HD time).  Please do not use inactive fleets to protect your harbor.  If you want to attack but cannot defend at the same time, you have made your choice. 

 

  • Re : Using inactive fleet to protect harbor

    10. 22. 2019 23:30


Catweazle_eu

Originally Posted by mariouchiha

Catweazle Eu..... i can't understand why you are "replying" almost every single post in Dumbledore's topic ...... it's weird lal, so dude..... take all that energy and use it this saturday against us, freaking noob

 

ok, for statistics:

40+ posts in this thread

5 sid, opener

5 catweazle

7 atofanei

 

in sum i replied every 8th posting here

ok...

 

maths is not everyones strength

written language understanding and arguing on arguments same ...

instead insults, other topics mixed up or "blabla"

"dumbledore"

"testing...1,2,3"

:-))

so who is noob?

 

pointless discussion because of  intellectual difference

i give up...

GMs job

 

my first post said "HA overlapping is the problem" - thats all, not only my opinion.

reason<>effect

 

cu in battle

catweazle

 

 

 

 

  • Re : Using inactive fleet to protect harbor

    10. 23. 2019 04:58


matz0708eu

is a game have fun bros

 

wee need a chat

we need more content

 

ps; dont block HA and make HA time dont overlap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

mfg matze

  • Re : Using inactive fleet to protect harbor

    10. 23. 2019 22:26


whitegoli

amazing, ppl state that blocking a harbor is ''not done'' while justfying that mercing is.

 

Overlapping times is annoying, but thats not rlly the issue on why ultras block their harbor.

They block their harbor mainly due unfair play, they view mercing as unfair and I agree with them. So if you all scream in this thread that blocking a harbor is unfair, you first should stop mercing.

 

In my opinion, ultras are doin this fine, they dont whine about it on the forums, they dont say anything in regard to the fact that theres 3+ fleets mercing together. Yes, they say it when you ask them, but they do not create a whole topic around this. They know it's completely futile with kupai, so they spare their energy and time and instead block their harbor. They take things in their own hands, cuz kupaisky isnt gonna do sh*t.

 

So suddenly mercing is fair, but block HA not.

hypocrisy to the end!

  • Re : Using inactive fleet to protect harbor

    10. 23. 2019 22:57


worldedge

LMAO lame
You are so ill informed.

Originally Posted by whitegoli

amazing, ppl state that blocking a harbor is ''not done'' while justfying that mercing is.

 

Overlapping times is annoying, but thats not rlly the issue on why ultras block their harbor.

They block their harbor mainly due unfair play, they view mercing as unfair and I agree with them. So if you all scream in this thread that blocking a harbor is unfair, you first should stop mercing.

 

In my opinion, ultras are doin this fine, they dont whine about it on the forums, they dont say anything in regard to the fact that theres 3+ fleets mercing together. Yes, they say it when you ask them, but they do not create a whole topic around this. They know it's completely futile with kupai, so they spare their energy and time and instead block their harbor. They take things in their own hands, cuz kupaisky isnt gonna do sh*t.

 

So suddenly mercing is fair, but block HA not.

hypocrisy to the end!



  • Re : Using inactive fleet to protect harbor

    10. 23. 2019 23:27


whitegoli

Originally Posted by worldedge

LMAO lame
You are so ill informed.

would you mind describing why I'm ill informed?

Now you're just screaming things, but if you want to properly argue in a discussion, you explain the person why you think he is ill informed.

  • Re : Using inactive fleet to protect harbor

    10. 24. 2019 02:14


Xiliki

Originally Posted by whitegoli

would you mind describing why I'm ill informed?

First answer me one question my naive Chinese friend-how many fleets sucked into your mighty rabbit fleet? Five or six? What about a few sister fleets?  Do you have an idea of the principles by which a competitive gaming environment is formed? Or do you think that if you collect all the players from the server in a single fleet, it would be cool?

  • Re : Using inactive fleet to protect harbor

    10. 24. 2019 07:43


whitegoli

Originally Posted by Xiliki

Originally Posted by whitegoli

would you mind describing why I'm ill informed?

First answer me one question my naive Chinese friend-how many fleets sucked into your mighty rabbit fleet? Five or six? What about a few sister fleets?  Do you have an idea of the principles by which a competitive gaming environment is formed? Or do you think that if you collect all the players from the server in a single fleet, it would be cool?

Firstly, I'm not chinese boiii, I'm a dutch.

secondly, I can say exactly the same of OSP, RA and BAMF.

I know that Vets did merge into rabbit partially. But I think that the english fleets need to get better along, which is not happening when pricks like you are around.

  • Re : Using inactive fleet to protect harbor

    10. 24. 2019 13:25


Xiliki

Originally Posted by whitegoli

Firstly, I'm not chinese boiii, I'm a dutch.

secondly, I can say exactly the same of OSP, RA and BAMF.

I know that Vets did merge into rabbit partially. But I think that the english fleets need to get better along, which is not happening when pricks like you are around.


Judging by your statements you have obvious problems with logic. OSP is German, BAMF is American, and RA is Russian. These are fleets with their own traditions, long history and different mentality. They cannot be combined into one. Just as it is impossible to unite the national teams of Brazil and Germany in football. Nevertheless, Brazilian Neymar played first for the Spanish, and now for the French sports club. By your logic, he is a mercenary and should not perform? Well, OK! But then need to to apply this rule and to ultras+ after what their will remain exactly 10 man. Your rabbit fleet will also split into 6 or 7 units. Where will you go then, Dutchman of the Chinese Navy?

  • Re : Using inactive fleet to protect harbor

    10. 25. 2019 08:27


whitegoli

Originally Posted by Xiliki

Originally Posted by whitegoli

Firstly, I'm not chinese boiii, I'm a dutch.

secondly, I can say exactly the same of OSP, RA and BAMF.

I know that Vets did merge into rabbit partially. But I think that the english fleets need to get better along, which is not happening when pricks like you are around.


Judging by your statements you have obvious problems with logic. OSP is German, BAMF is American, and RA is Russian. These are fleets with their own traditions, long history and different mentality. They cannot be combined into one. Just as it is impossible to unite the national teams of Brazil and Germany in football. Nevertheless, Brazilian Neymar played first for the Spanish, and now for the French sports club. By your logic, he is a mercenary and should not perform? Well, OK! But then need to to apply this rule and to ultras+ after what their will remain exactly 10 man. Your rabbit fleet will also split into 6 or 7 units. Where will you go then, Dutchman of the Chinese Navy?

 

CLAP CLAP nicely done, you've twisted my words into your own. What logic exactly? That half of KT split up into OSP and BAMF? That BAMF is more european now than american? Ah yess!

 

Incase you do not know, I'm an old KT member, been there since I started out till the fleet fell apart and got scattered. To judge me for being a bunny like that is a bit judgental and hyprocisy, dont you think?

 

Next to that, I NEVER stated that you guys are to be combined into 1, but I do state that you guys work together. Now you can come with your excuse of different fleet mentality, but thats complete bs. You could have easily made up with Ultras, if you pathetic nabs didnt act like children. Cuz lets be real, none of BAMF, OSP or RA is willing to talk with ultras, instead you guys are going to whine over the forums. There always a childrens fight between you guys. God, wish KT still existed, there I didnt need to deal with this bs, I could just play.

 

Yes, I know OSP and RA are national, I'm dutch, I live in the country next to germany, do you seriously think I didnt know they were german?

 

You on the other hand seem to be actually too retarded to understand what I imply. If you play for one fleet, you play FOR THAT FLEET and not 20 DIFFERENT OTHERS as a fleet! Do you understand? Like how simple can it be? There's no excuse to this. You play for the fleet that you're in, POINT OUT. You're not gonna merc for 20 different other fleets.

 

apart from that, you can scream at me that rabbits do this that bla bla bla, but I hope you did realize by now that I do not give a flying fuck for what rabbits do. I play for them and only them, like how it should have been. I do not care what others do in this fleet, thats up to them. I talk with them, play with them, but they chose how they want to play, I really do not care if they merc for others. Because in rabbits, its up to the player what you do, not to the fleet.

 

If like 6 players of our fleet want to merc for another fleet, they can do that, but its not on behalf of rabbit lead, they prob do not even know who mercs or not.

 

Bamf, OSP and RA however are fully aware of the mercing, the leaders talk together and lend out accounts for mercing. So stop bending the truth, thank you.

 

Migamidoz : I've got 20 RA accounts, who wants to play for RA? (miga went to ra lead)

Flaggelant : I've got 10 accounts for OSP, who wants to merc for OSP? (flag went to RA lead)

 

This is what I try to imply, we rabbits do not ask for mercs or do not even negotiate. You with the lead however do, you as a fleet negotiate with BAMF or OSP, whatever about lending out accounts. That's different from a player who choses to play for another fleet on his own behalf.  One of the main OSP accounts that gets frequently used as merc account is for example the hippo account, nice KM BB7 with a few 6.5s and cvs. Or bamf commander08, sgtjojo get frequently used as an account that lend out by the leading of BAMF to OSP for example.

 

We know that imperium lead also asks members who wants to play for BAMF, lending out accounts from BAMF that he got received from BAMF lead.

  • Re : Using inactive fleet to protect harbor

    10. 25. 2019 13:43


Xiliki

Originally Posted by whitegoli

You on the other hand seem to be actually too retarded to understand what I imply. 



I see talking to you is a waste of time. However, in parting, I will leave a few theses.
1. The rabbit fleet had already sought RA's help in defending against another Chinese fleet. Between may and September, the rabbitohs had about 10 acc's from RA. There I saw Mido (Hi!), who is now back in the Ultras. So do not lie and pretend to be a virgin. This is a common practice used by all navies.
2. Ultras themselves have created a bad reputation by spoiling relations with other fleets. And only they themselves can improve it.  And until this happened need not be surprised large number of willing to settle with them scores.
3. If you do not know the reasons for this conflict and can not offer anything clever, you do not need to pry into their business, so as not to look like a fool .  Go back to your Chinese friends... Dutch.

И откуда вы только беретесь?

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