Originally Posted by techdome26
sadly, i have not been able to HA/HD inna while due to Saturdey work and obligations when Omegas had an evening battle. so you ki9ds enjoy your argument.
i did see a couple of things stated incorrectly regarding game rulez...unless HK Kupa has changed them.
Somehow I feel obliged to respond to this.
Originally Posted by techdome26
1) APAs and in Japan's case also Kitakami and the IJN lvl 25 ECL(brainfart-can't remember that ship's name this moment) . they can win a tile in HA/HD by advancing past the enemy's original starting line, AND exiting game NORTH, SOUTH, or at enemy's rear border after crossing that start line. to inflict enemy damage in the harbor tile, they must land their troops on a solid piece of enemy land(no islands), getting damage for advancing to a LANDING POINT, and successfully putting infantry and/or armor on that enemy beachhead. or they could use guns to inflict damage, of course.
APA can win an HA tile by going past the left border (since you attack right to left). No one is disputing this. It is much better than hunting a sub for 20 minutes. Everyone welcomes this change. APA can also drop troops on HT to damage harbour. No one does though.
Originally Posted by techdome26
2) SKYTRAIN bombers have a variety of weapons available to attack/assist an attack on an enemy ship. HE bombs, star shells, AP bombs, mines and probably others. in HA/HD Skytrains could bomb the harbor tile LAND for damage, but dropping PARATROOPERS on enemy land in the HARBOR TILE successfully will garnish the biggest attack. other than a slow ass bomber , in general gameplay they are not usually used.
this info is, as far as i know, correct and is intended to clarify Harbor Tile Attack by these 2 options. i will say that if APA, Kita, or that IJN ECL go out of bounds PAST your start line on a regular tile, the game should register that team as the winner of the tile. HARBOR TILE attacks are denoted.
I think you are confusing Skytrains and DBs. They use the same pilots, but Skytrains are for HA only and only ever drop paratroopers for damaging the harbour. They are relatively slow and loud and take up a decent chunk of plane space. It is a non-destructive way to capture the harbour and is intended gameplay. You obviously cant run past the left border on HT (there is land from the harbour), so you can't cheese the harbour that way.
Originally Posted by techdome26
i will suggest that seeing an APA, Kita, or CL going out of bounds and/or coming back in may be them testing that "ENEMY START LINE" they have to reach. as long as they come back in bounds soon, they continue. any plane that goes out of bounds should be watched closely, BUT it has been my experience that any unit out of bounds for 1(one) minute, is automatically terminated by the game. i find it unlikely that APAs or Skytrains, any or all, are traveling (the length X 2/3) of the game screen while out of bounds without an autoboot.
Unfortunately you are just wrong. That 1 minute rule has been removed because you are no longer supposed able to get out of bounds. What this results in is that you can realistically glitch yourself out of bounds, turn your ship, and run the whole length of the map before coming into the map at the top or bottom right and crossing the border to win a tile, with no counter play unless someone is parked in that corner and can hit you in smoke. What this also means is that you can take an HA tile while the entire enemy line is up.
This is the issue that is being complained about by many of our fleet members because you can't counter this. You can hold the line as much as you want, but 15 minutes into a tile you just get the "You Have Been Defeated" prompt because someone glitched outside the map where you cant see them to shoot them.
RE: Skytrains - I'm pretty sure in HA tiles planes dont get auto shot down on border (don't quote me on this) like in GB, so you can also glitch planes into the north border and run them the whole way around the map (or at least on the very edge) so you can't see them. This is also why half the time skytrain CVs hide in the top right corner on HTs.
Originally Posted by techdome26
the people writing most of the comments re:this forum post sure seem to know alot about hacks, and that in itself makes me suspicious. some old fleets always used cheats and MANY players had multiple accounts, but it boggles my mind that so many PERSONS are playing on BAMF AND RA both, and that same notion pops up with'2 Omegas'.
i will just say that i gave up 3 other secondary accounts to keep playing when they were banning people, and i wrote NF and told them i had them, had never abused re: the game these accounts, and told them i was folding all 3, keeping this one account.
AND there was a big problem with both RA and BAMF and extra accounts back then. at that time, Omega did not even exist. RA, as a whole fleet, was banned back then, as was half+/- of BAMF. but hey jojo has been banned for buying accounts like 3 times and banned for life 3 times and still comes back.
Multiple accounts are allowed now, which is why many people made other accounts to have more ships for HA/HD. We will not tolerate anyone calling or insinuating that our players cheat without proof.
Originally Posted by techdome26
ALL OF YA'LL!! IF YA GOTTA CHEAT TO ASSURE WINNING, YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT OF THE GAME AND OF LIFE. QUIT CHEATING, everyone, BECAUSE AN HONEST CONTEST WOULD BE APPRECIATED!
We can only hope.
