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  • Dont bother going SN now !!

    07. 21. 2011 06:07


cello1
The SN fleet was adveratised as a fleet with range ... the patch has just removed that making it a complete waste of time.
Basicly it has been a scam over the past 6 mounths to get ppl to buy into a fleet that was going nowhere !  The guns now at the Stalin lvl
are so nerfed thay are a joke ... befor the lvl89 12" guns had more range than the lvl 91 16" so why didnt you just revers the 2 giving the 16" @ lvl 91 the 12" range & backed off the 12" @lvl 89 to the 16" range.
Obviously this was to simple for SDE to comprehend ... now it seems the whole fleet is under ranged ... I m getting out ranged by  RN Lion 1 same BB4 lvl which is sup to be the lowest range due to the big armor.
This is not a balance its a farce .... & still the SS's run around with overpowered percution damage unnerfed  .. what a joke  ( If it works dont fix it { the SS dont work in balance } .. Just save your money DONT go SN & buy any
of the premiums they are a waste of a grind to get to ships that are a waste of time !!!!!!

 

  • Re : Dont bother going SN now !!

    07. 23. 2011 05:04


jmardlin
Here is a real simple fact the test server is NOT the game server. Everything reacts differently on the game servers. Just because it looks good on the test server doesn't mean it will be on game server of vice versa.

  • Re : Dont bother going SN now !!

    07. 23. 2011 05:19


ljsevern
Originally Posted by jmardlin

Here is a real simple fact the test server is NOT the game server. Everything reacts differently on the game servers. Just because it looks good on the test server doesn't mean it will be on game server of vice versa.


Not seen you in any tests, how would you know that?

The only issue with differences between servers is if SDE make a mistake, or with KLF values.

  • Re : Dont bother going SN now !!

    07. 23. 2011 05:25


Gtdawg
If people spent two seconds reading the testing threads (there's a whole section in these forums for it), they'd see that most of us are just as surprised as you that the SN level 100 guns don't have more range.

From what I remember, the level 100 range was supposed to be swapped with the level 110 guns (which would put it somewhere near L2, maybe slightly above...but less than H44).

But, no. Let's complain about how awful the nation is and the ONF testers are stupid.

  • Re : Dont bother going SN now !!

    07. 23. 2011 05:58


jmardlin
I have tested stuff and I can really see a difference between the test server and the game server. Especially in guns the reloads and accuracy are generally better on the live servers. This is due to the fact that the sailors on the test server have much lower abilities than on the live servers. They try to make up for this by having a huge amount of vets on them, but this does not fully compensate for the loss of ability.

  • Re : Dont bother going SN now !!

    07. 23. 2011 06:36


ljsevern
Originally Posted by jmardlin

I have tested stuff and I can really see a difference between the test server and the game server. Especially in guns the reloads and accuracy are generally better on the live servers. This is due to the fact that the sailors on the test server have much lower abilities than on the live servers. They try to make up for this by having a huge amount of vets on them, but this does not fully compensate for the loss of ability.


Actually, reload is capped on the main servers, so it is fairly easy to calculate. Spread is an iffy issue which we are looking into, which is mainly due to the lack of accounts being premium (We have tested boosted gunners and not seen a difference).

Also, what tests have you attended? Or have you just messed around on your own?

  • Re : Dont bother going SN now !!

    07. 23. 2011 07:32


jmardlin
lj as if you haven't notice I only normally comment on smaller ships and guns as it is what I play with very much. Even though I have up to BB4 in most nations to BB5 in a couple and BB6 in one. I pretty much gave up on even trying to test because of your perceived attitude that you are always right and everyone else is wrong. I know this is not fully the case but for the most part it is true. You really need to keep an open mind. Not everyone that plays is an elite player and if everything is balance for them then players with a little less skill are turned off. Things should be balanced for the above average player not elite players.

  • Re : Dont bother going SN now !!

    07. 23. 2011 08:00


ljsevern
Originally Posted by jmardlin

lj as if you haven't notice I only normally comment on smaller ships and guns as it is what I play with very much. Even though I have up to BB4 in most nations to BB5 in a couple and BB6 in one. I pretty much gave up on even trying to test because of your perceived attitude that you are always right and everyone else is wrong. I know this is not fully the case but for the most part it is true. You really need to keep an open mind. Not everyone that plays is an elite player and if everything is balance for them then players with a little less skill are turned off. Things should be balanced for the above average player not elite players.


I do have an open mind, but unfortunately for the most part, I am right. Feel free to prove me wrong using facts and evidence, I would LOVE for there to be people that can do this because it means less workload for me (You try running fleet events, testing, balance proposals, University, holding a job, all while playing the game yourself so that you can keep up to date with the always in flux game balance. If things are balanced for less skilled players, things become overpowered when "elite players" are in rooms and then everyone gets farmed, which we do not want, and it also ruins competitive gameplay.

If you honestly think I have this attitude, then you are wrong. Have you ever tested with me before? Have you ever tried to have a debate with me using facts and evidence? And to be honest, i'm not here to be liked, I couldn't care less. I'm here to get the job done; Improving a game that I love, for the community.

  • Re : Dont bother going SN now !!

    07. 23. 2011 08:54


heatrr
Amazing how some to many around here get their collective panties in a bunch when they read something that comes across in a way THEY don't like or in a way THEY perceive as being harsh, etc.

I simply call it telling it like it is. If you can't handle the truth then move along but getting your panties in a bunch is beyond ludicrous.


Try explaining it in "a nice way"? Lulz, pathetic. Most of you would not cut it in the real world.

  • Re : Dont bother going SN now !!

    07. 23. 2011 09:00


jmardlin
Originally Posted by heatrr

Amazing how some to many around here get their collective panties in a bunch when they read something that comes across in a way THEY don't like or in a way THEY perceive as being harsh, etc.

I simply call it telling it like it is. If you can't handle the truth then move along but getting your panties in a bunch is beyond ludicrous.


Try explaining it in "a nice way"? Lulz, pathetic. Most of you would not cut it in the real world.

I can be a jackass if I was to be or need to be but for the most part it does not get you anywhere.

  • Re : Dont bother going SN now !!

    07. 23. 2011 09:21


nyerkovic
Ok, this thread isn't really going anywhere and it has already too many personal attacks.

Many people feel that some changes in the patch didn't go where they were intended and some of them are actually working to fix it.

There are two types of people in this world... those who look for problems, and those who look for solutions.

If you want to make a difference, don't argue here... go to the test server section and be part of the solution.

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