Recc'd this is gr8. This needs to be brought in pronto!

Although at the moment in my destroyers (O/P, Q/R, L/M and Tribal) I am not using
the depth charges much (leveling some HH gunners the past month or two) I would
normally use them very much. I do not find that they damage my own ships that
much or maybe even at all or maybe I just do not remember that. But I do not mind
theyre damage per distance to be lowered as long as once dropped alongside or
ontop a submarine they are still as potent as they are now.

I reckon the incentives upon cash would be better than experience. I think you can
look at destroyers and frigate like you do with cruisers. Both escort the capital ships
to protect them from two of the biggest threats to them that have changed naval
warfare somewhat, the submarine and the aircraft. Cruisers protect against the
aircraft and in NavyField they get good credits for doing this job, so too should the
destroyer and frigate get good credits from doing its job protecting against
submarines.

Actually i can add something to this for usefulness so don't lock it.

Buff's and nerfs

Depth Charges:
I don't know all the values for these so if someone who does could help out with these and
i'm willing to help set a test up on the test server to be able to confirm everything.

The DC's are a tad OPed on splash damage, you can't get out of range per say in a
Flecther, Z1, or any other DD1 in time due to there low speed with a at level crew. Now if
you used a above level crew there is the possibility of getting away with more luck, but
with at level no.

Hedge Hogs
(based by level on this nerf)
I currently don't see anything other than there reload time (PHH & NPHH) should be nerfed
a bit, with 120 gunners i have less than a 10 second reload when with level 50 gunners i
still have about a 40 second reload.

Flight time on the hedge hogs is good in my opinion it gives subs time to crit dive or
surface, crit is the better option.

Splash damage (in water)
Currently i don't think this needs to be adjusted, the damage is actually closer than most
would think to real life since HH's were designed to be fired, land in the water, and go
deeper than DC's would.

Splash damage(out of water)
This does need to be nerfed as proved by unholy's Z99 against the QV. The damage should be
nerfed by upwards of 50% for surface in my opinion.

ASW incentives

ASW needs more incentives to play it, such as a bit better credit gain, and better EXP
gain then maybe we would have more ASW players running around helping to ensure that subs
don't get within the BB line and eventually to the CV's.


NOTE: I'm a BB player NOT a sub player

someone told him to use the search function rather than post another "bonuses for
asw" topic, and theres not anything additional to be given so what else is there for
him other than to provide his support to the suggestion, dammed if you do dammed
if you dont.

searching to find the information .. and reading it .. does NOT require you to POST

if you chose to post .. at least add something new and USEFUL to the discussion

because if you're not adding anything useful other than a "DO NOT LOCK" whine
especially since you have also dragged up 3 other threads on the same topic too
and on none of them have you don'e anything other than ... "yeah good idea" ..
if thats ALL you are going to say - then .. YES - it IS a necro post .. and in that case

agreed. good idea.


NOTE: MODS DONT LOCK. IM NOT NECROPOSTING. IM JUST USING SEARCH FUNCTION.

I agree *partly* with this thread.

First:
SouthernCros, you do indeed take an exp penalty for damaging yourself with your DCs. I
tested it, and I've seen it happen a number of other times in the past. I'll bump my
thread in a minute that treats that specific case.

In general: yes, ASW needs to be not punished. The exp penalty for using gunners and
torpers (or DCs) is ridiculous. The more damage you do with torps or DCs, the less exp
your gunners get, and I think vice versa too. There's no logical reason I've heard why
they should have to compete for exp, they should both get full/normal exp.

The part I disagree with is this: I think you SHOULD still get an exp penalty for TKing
your own team with DCs, just like any other weapon. You have to be careful with guns not
to shoot your own team sometimes, you can be careful with DCs not to kill your own team.
Removing the exp penalty would allow you to 1. DC willy nilly without much regard for your
team, and 2. intentionally TK people with DCs with no penalty.

It is quite possible and reasonable to expect people to use DCs such that they don't kill
their own team. However, I support removing the exp penalty for damaging yourself, since
DCs *almost always* damage yourself. The other option is to make them not damage you, but
that's not an option I like. I prefer to let them damage you, but you shouldn't be
penalized through exp for using DCs. Again, refer to my thread.

bumping, as somthing has to be done for ASW at the moment

zOMG, though! I love it! RAwR!

You and everyone else had thought of this. thanks, einstein.