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    04. 01. 2010 03:14

HeroEnVec

From a previous thread "the whole uk-bb ship-tree is completely broken"

and I agreed, so for giggles I did this with mighty MSpaint. :p



enjoy. ^^
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  • Re : UK ship tree.

    04. 21. 2010 02:50

Kaj1234
To above:
Yes, some of the ships were only projects that were never even started to being
built.
While some are WW1 ships.
When SU gets released(only for prem users) i wander what CV's they will make for
SU.
SU never had any CV's until many years after WW2...

  • Re : UK ship tree.

    04. 05. 2010 15:37

ben911997
truely,this tree looks better,the original is all strange when i look over it,and by the
way is it true some ships did not exist during WW2?

  • Re : UK ship tree.

    04. 05. 2010 15:28

Ziro820
I like what you did with that ship tree, really do. <3

As for the Hood, with high enough level crew, you don't need to drop crew for the 42knt
speed cap.

Agreed with PoW point. Quad Ls with a fix to the accuracy would be all it needs. I would
say, more range than the Nelson 16" too. Being higher level and all.

Nelson... I find the pre-ONF Nelson in some ways better than the current. I thought of
listing changes but I keep ending up to the pre-ONF Nelson... Hood guns enabled for
armor-able Nelsons. 16" Nelson only, less range but more damage. I would probably say make
the Nelson guns even more heavy but still able to retain some speed if the Nelson is not
armored. That will make a speed whore Nelson a possibility. Which I would really like to
see. Quad Ns... sure, we can have some suicidal ninja Nelsons every now and then. Quad Ns
should be so heavy that there's no way of having speed or armor on the Nelson. Quad Ls
should not fit.

As for the above post. I agree, the Repulse should be easier to speed cap. The ship is
difficult enough to play given the space between the front and rear guns and the spread at
level. At least the Alaska and Guam have feasible AA and speed, the Repulse should at
least have speed. Maybe slightly slower than the Guam, but still attainable at BB2 levels.
If that's not possible, give it more room to armor. That would fit well with the ship tree
change in the original post. ;)

  • Re : UK ship tree.

    04. 02. 2010 12:18

TheFaller
i dunno why ur idea of the shiptree being like that, but in my opinion i preffer it being
the way it is now (maybe changing the lvls of some ships...)

one good thing aswell to be taken to change: the repulse(ive) ship!
- the speed can be a bit hard to speed cap, and that ship rly needs that speed to survive....
- dunno why, it resembles ?N with its thin armor. or in other words, its submergence
value seems very low, got 750 SD on it, and it gets 1-2 shotted easily.
- if you go ACC gunners, u wont get that much of a good spread with only 6 shells, rld
time is crazy (12 secods for a lvl 74 BVE x_X); if you go RLD gunners, ur spread will be
bad, maybe get the same as ACC in the later lvls, and i believe rld time would be good
- dmg output per salvo is, imo, a joke

Sollutions:
- increase turning force
- make it be able to use a gun that gives more dmg per shell, or this option: since
there's 2 gun sets for BB1, make a change as the 2nd set could be used for the QE, and the
current set used in the repulse wouldnt be able to be used by the QE, and it would have
more dmg per shell.

i know, who cares about the repulse?? i just think that repulse could be an interesting
ship to play, but it just has too many broke things in comparison with good stuff, and it
becomes a pain in the ass to literally "grind" 13 lvls, or 15 lvls to get a nelson/hood :\

  • Re : UK ship tree.

    04. 01. 2010 20:37

HeroEnVec
I think the BB2-3 world is in need of some work after the last ONF (KM buff) patch...

in my fantasy land. The nelly should be a tough ship to get. grinding from ~66-~79 with
a repulse is... crazy (not considering PBB). So, again, in my fantasy land the 16" nelson
guns can -ONLY- be used by the nelson, and have Mk3L range. All other things equal to the
way it is now. Just think about this... nelly is slow, cannot mount serious AA without
suffering, cannot mount armor without suffering, and has no scouts. The ship deserves to
have by far the strongest BB3 guns in game.


The hood would have the ability to use RP12L only. none of this nelly 16" or quad L BS.
Further, I personally think the Mk3L need a -Very- slight range increase... at present you
really can't tell the range difference between N and L... which is a joke. If the range
is not increased, then the hood should have its speed increased to 44knts at the cap. As
pointed out in this forum previously, the Bismark should not be better than the hood in
every way possible. Right now the hood cannot mount aa without suffering, cannot run at
the speed cap with at lvl crew OR high level crew without dropping some crew from the
ship(please verify, I have limited Hood experience), and has pretty bad accuracy
considering its other problems.

POW, at present, is badly broken. The quad dual quad set up is an uberfail of epic
proportions presently. That gunset needs a SERIOUS acc revision increase and a slight
damage buff OR introduction of a tripple Mk3N gunset. I am OK with fixing the quad dual
quad set up because the guns are 40 degree max angle... same as L1. Thus, this is a
transitional learning experience from KGV-L1. Oh, and POW is the highest level BB3 in
game, yet is presently the worst BB3 for BB battles. This should not be the case.

oh, and DO NOT come in here sobbing because your (insert ship) got sunk by a blocking quad
POW rushing you. If you are regularly getting sunk by ships with blocking quads, and you
have lvl 65+ gunners on -Any- BB2+, your total lack of skill is to blame.

  • Re : UK ship tree.

    04. 01. 2010 19:07

UmbralRaptor
Looks reasonable. Amusingly, this would probably make Hoods moderately common and Nelsons
rare.

  • Re : UK ship tree.

    04. 01. 2010 18:52

BoRe
i always thought thats the way it should be.

  • Re : UK ship tree.

    04. 01. 2010 15:15

Marine1337
i wish it would have gone this way, kinda makes more sense. also would make my grind to
hood easier.
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