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    08. 19. 2010 18:32

hunter1396
Ok, as most players in Bismark know, I am a very staunch advocate of ASW. I know that
UK AA isn't the best in the world, so in my Nelson's T slots I have hedgehogs on to keep
subs at bay. Now when I get the bigger BBs, will it be worth it to carry the hedgehogs
on or give it up for rep crews?
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  • Re : HHs on a BB

    08. 21. 2010 20:23

hunter1396
Thanks for the ideas guys. I have been contemplating on getting the pompoms but it
seems that Bismark subs have been gaining members. About the disengage and AA real
quick, I have to say you don't have to see the target marker if you have the sound on.
You will almost always hear that whiney and slow air raid alarm if they autobomb which
is more than enough cue for me to return to my ship and dodge.

  • Re : HHs on a BB

    08. 21. 2010 10:16

Ferrard
Multitasking freak? Yup. If you aren't, then obviously AA gets a bit harder. But
honestly, if you're playing a BB right, you're already going to be changing course when
you "G" back. If you happen to spot either bombers or the Red-Ring, just make that course
correction much more severe to pull yourself back out of range. Then there's no
multitasking - just AAing. As a note: This wasn't something to be done between two
salvos. In order to pull it off without dropping your britches to the enemy, you have to
disengage.

And I'm quite sure you know how to, but the number of CVs that know how to change
altitude well enough to thwart good AA is surprisingly small. Add to that the number of
players who use dive-bombers, auto-bomb, and don't know how to do the low-altitude-bombing
glitch, and you get a railroad of tasty bombers that correctly leveled AA gunners should
have no problems swatting down with pom-poms.

~ Ferrard

  • Re : HHs on a BB

    08. 21. 2010 05:43

hidden69
"However, if you "G" back to your ship and you see a flight of bombers heading your way,
why not disengage momentarily and AA them down? Once you've reduced their numbers and
dodged the ones who remained (who were forced to bomb under fire, and thus weren't likely
to have an "ideal" approach) you can re-engage the enemy BB."

wow and you can do that all, between the reload of 2 salvos, you must be some kind of an
extreme multitasking freak. beside that with the fast switching-turrent-turning-bug your
guidelines will be somewhere, and with CV-players that acutally do know how to lower and
higher their planes, which you can of cause easily follow with your eagle-eye view, and as
in general the golden angle area for the pompoms is due to their angle very short, its of
cause easy to get those tier2 bombers down. In fact as a CV player UK-BBs with pompoms are
the ones who are the easiest to hit with all planes remaining after the raid.

But well, in gb2 these days everything works in some way, even aa-whoring uk-bbs, shared
xp ftw.

  • Re : HHs on a BB

    08. 20. 2010 16:50

Ferrard
I disagree, Hidden. Beyond BB1's, AA obviously should not be a primary goal. A lot of
BBs who focus too much on their AA suites end up getting ROFLstomped by someone who took
advantage of the distraction.

However, if you "G" back to your ship and you see a flight of bombers heading your way,
why not disengage momentarily and AA them down? Once you've reduced their numbers and
dodged the ones who remained (who were forced to bomb under fire, and thus weren't likely
to have an "ideal" approach) you can re-engage the enemy BB.

A BB reliant on CVs to down planes is, well, at the mercy of the CV balance. I personally
don't like being at the mercy of auto-stacker, so my own inclination is to mount AA, and
for bomber-downing, the best UK gun would have to be the pom-poms.

~ Ferrard

  • Re : HHs on a BB

    08. 20. 2010 03:20

Pitt_Possum
Just leave the guy armentsailors until u hit QV, then convert em to AA gunners.

before that they can use HHs, and the good thing is before QV there is no UK bb with good
t slots (except some bb1"2, but with todays exp gain u wont be long in those anyway)

  • Re : HHs on a BB

    08. 20. 2010 02:28

hidden69
If you have time to operate the pom-poms successfully you are behind the battle-line and
as a UK BB you should search for the battle line instead of hiding behind. At AA there are
3 other nations that are by hundrets of thounds miles ahead of it, so why using it, just
for shit and giggles and the lag?

Hedgehogs are worth if you are in battles with many subs, in all other battles they are
more or less useless, so its up to your oberservation in what battles you are more often.

  • Re : HHs on a BB

    08. 19. 2010 19:58

Ferrard
Train up AA gunners. Use pom-poms. It'll be a tough grind, but once you learn how to use
them, the pom-poms are so fun it's worth it (and they absolutely chew up dive-bombers too).

Or you could keep using HH's. So long as you have a towed-sonar frigate, those are useful
too.

Either way, I'd consider them both more useful than naked T-slots unless you're going for
an uber-SW.

~ Ferrard
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