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    08. 20. 2010 14:52

Gamer2112
Does Iowa have the worst range out of the BB4s and some other nation BB3s?

My Iowa is pretty new and as I've been playing it. I have noticed that I am getting out
ranged by the h39 for sure and the yammy. Not sure about L1, but probably. It seems like
some BB3s of other nations are out ranging me as well.

I am using the lvl 91 16" L guns.

Just wanting to get the thoughts of some of the expert BB players. :)
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  • Re : Iowa Range

    09. 09. 2010 03:48

normpearii
@ 120 Iowa and Vanguard have about the same range. Especially when the Iowa is heading
north Firing Straight west.

  • Re : Iowa Range

    09. 09. 2010 02:25

Verfallen
I'd suggest you open your eyes and re-read the ship name in my range comparison.

H39 vs alsace range test.

You see a mention of a richie there? I dont.

  • Re : Iowa Range

    09. 09. 2010 02:00

Pitt_Possum
If you outrange rich only by a small margin in your h39 i would suggest you start using
h39 guns and drop the bism guns.

Iowa/Yamato/Vanny have about the same range, static minimal differences are negated by the
angels/hitboxes of those 3 ships, as they play completly different.

L1 has less range than all of the 3 mentioned above, however its fast and can zoom in on
you fast.

Rich has even less range than L1, its about Bism range, with a small advantage for bism,
because rich hitbox is... lets say not like iowa ;)

H39 ranges all of the above mentioned by a fair bit.

  • Re : Iowa Range

    09. 09. 2010 01:22

Verfallen
I like how someone wasn't sure where the richie fit range wise compared to the bb4 :P

FOOD

now thats said, I tested with someone from your fleet speed, a while back.

H39 and alsace. From what we both noted, alsace is outrange by a really tiny margin by the
H39, but it was kinda nullified most of the time by the alsace erratic spread.

At any rate, even in case of a block, the range difference isnt enough for the H39 to get
freebie on the alsace, especially since the alsace can pretty much gives it a run for its
money at slinging, as it keeps a speed advantage on it.

As far as the iowa playstyle goes its quite simple.

Your ship has no weakness, yay! But it also has no particular strenght, darn.

So how do you do this? Simple. For each attribute of the iowa, there is always a ship that
does better than it. Yammy and L1 pwns it firepower wise, L1 and richie are faster, all
safe L1 got better AA, and its average range wise.

Against BB3 and less use your range. Against other BB4, rather than play to your strengh,
which is what you would do with H39 (range) or L1 (rushing), you play to your enemies
weakness compared to you.

You'll play range vs the L1 and richie, beat the vanny in a linefight or use your superior
firepower in a rush (do it well tough, vanny goes 42 knot as well. If you are obvious
about it, its going to start running too soon and your 45 max angle aint that good at
running after things)

Against a yammy, you'll use your hitbox to negates its firepower advantage, while you land
full salvo on its fat arse.

Against an H39, you use your firepower and hitbox.

A great iowa player is versatile, and can play multiple styles. In the end, I believe, you
leave your iowa behind and you learned quite a few lessons.

Guam--Colo-Sodak-Iowa are the reasons I suggest to new player to go USN. You get through
the line a BB course 101 to all of the basic BB technique and strategy rather than stick
to one for the whole line.

  • Re : Iowa Range

    08. 29. 2010 13:14

normpearii
Range doesn't matter in a ship that slim, has one of the best turn rates and does 42
knots. Plus the hitbox...

  • Re : Iowa Range

    08. 27. 2010 01:03

Alex99
iowa is the middle bb4

  • Re : Iowa Range

    08. 23. 2010 15:33

SylverXI
I'm completly wrong how LOL? u just proved me right

Like I said, those defferential u mention are caused by bad spread. I played with al
of these ships grinding to lvl 120. I tested about many types of things I keep to
myself...
Alsace has monty and h39 range and can even surpass their range with lvl 105
gunners because of the spread.

Did u know about the part that H39 actually has 2 ranges with the same pair of
guns?...U don't have to understand it, if you do, then u might know what I'm refering
to.
In other words, taking small differentials into account is just unpractical since range
is also determened by spread and weird gun position. H39 has a longer range with
the two outward guns then the two center guns. Now to say it has less or more then
monty & alsace is dumb since both statements are ironiclly true...

PS. I don't know why ppl say vanguard has less range then Yamato, I play that ship
about every day and tested it against Iowa. it has more range then Iowa. but
because the yamato has bigger caliber, putting a vanny face to face with yammy,
yammy would problly still hit it whit 4-3 shell because of spread and caliber difrences.
That unless you cross your guns, then yes vanny will have less range...

  • Re : Iowa Range

    08. 23. 2010 06:42

SpeeDemonF30
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LOL u people really don't know Iowa ranges LOL...

Some BB ranges:
Alsace=M0ntana=H39>Yamato=Vanguard>Iowa>L1=Richeliue=Bismarck>other BB3's
etc...


Now u might disagree, usually the ship with worse spread also have best range...I
am not taking spread into acount. Like yamato might still hit a Vanguard since it has
worse spread and bigger caliber. Same goes for richeliue VS L1. Iowa has 45
degrees which means that, by the time your shells land, the enemy would have
moved back to safety.

Before anyone disagrees, I posses all of these ships exept yamato and tested the
ranges with fleetmates.

Iowa is a a multi purpose ship, u can play it in whenever way u want. hold a line and
rush. Unlike L1 and Richeliue, that can't hold a line and H39 that can't rush and
yamato that is to darn slow and fat to rush.
Try mastering the slingshot manuever

Try shooting while running away from the enemy instead of into them.. You will get a
large improvement.

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You talk about not knowing the ranges but you sir are completely wrong

Alsace=M0ntana=H39>Yamato=Vanguard>Iowa>L1=Richeliue=Bismarck>other BB3's
etc...

Beyond wrong....

Montana has more range than the Alsace.

Alsace has a very tiny bit more than the H39 if not almost equal.

H39 has the most range of BB4s.

Yamato has more range than the Iowa.

Iowa has about the same range as the Vanguard.

Vanguard has more range than the L1.

  • Re : Iowa Range

    08. 22. 2010 23:05

SylverXI
LOL u people really don't know Iowa ranges LOL...

Some BB ranges:
Alsace=M0ntana=H39>Yamato=Vanguard>Iowa>L1=Richeliue=Bismarck>other BB3's
etc...


Now u might disagree, usually the ship with worse spread also have best range...I
am not taking spread into acount. Like yamato might still hit a Vanguard since it has
worse spread and bigger caliber. Same goes for richeliue VS L1. Iowa has 45
degrees which means that, by the time your shells land, the enemy would have
moved back to safety.

Before anyone disagrees, I posses all of these ships exept yamato and tested the
ranges with fleetmates.

Iowa is a a multi purpose ship, u can play it in whenever way u want. hold a line and
rush. Unlike L1 and Richeliue, that can't hold a line and H39 that can't rush and
yamato that is to darn slow and fat to rush.
Try mastering the slingshot manuever

Try shooting while running away from the enemy instead of into them.. You will get a
large improvement.

  • Re : Iowa Range

    08. 20. 2010 20:15

stratavar
actually falcon, the Richelieu has taken the crown for worst range from what I can tell.
If Richelieu could outrange an Iowa, I would use mine more often @.@

But yes, as people have been saying, you really need to take advantage of the Iowa's
smaller hitbox. It makes a huge difference when you can reduce the damage to something so
minimal because of how thin the Iowa is.
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