Doneman
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nice historical postings. Last post before this thing gets lock (unless someone can get us back on T4 talk...).
vasuba bearcats are alwsome, they were very manuvable and used a lot. THey would be out premeire naval plane, as that's the one most used on CVs. All following data from wikipedia..
Specifications F8F-1 and F8F-2: Maximum speed: 421 mph (366 kn, 678 km/h) - probly fastest production carrier plane Range: 1,105 mi (1,778 km) Service ceiling: 38,700 ft (11,796 m) Rate of climb: 4,570 ft/min (23.2 m/s) - best climb of the ones mentioned? Carrier craft needed this, F15 of navy fighters?....
Ramp4ge well spoken and insightfull. P-38 stuff is right on target. It had the War emergency power engine that was used more then other planes if i'm not mistaken. Making it the fastest plane, and great for the hit and runs it did in Europe.
P-38L - fastest plane when in turbo, fastest prop bomber/close air support Maximum speed: 443 mph (712 km/h) on War Emergency Power: 1,725 hp at 64 inHG and 28,000 ft (8530 m)[88][89] Stall speed: 105 mph (170 km/h) Range: 1,300 mi combat (1,770 km / 3,640 km) Service ceiling: 44,000 ft (13,400 m) Rate of climb: 4,750 ft/min (1,448 m/min) maximum
nuff said right, p-38s were alwsome, but this is navy field and they don't fit, so i carry on to other mentioned planes.
P-51D Mustang (as the P-51Hs were not used much till after the war they are excluded) Maximum speed: 437 mph (703 km/h) at 25,000 ft (7,600 m) - 2nd fastest (#1=P-38) Cruise speed: 362 mph (580 km/h) Stall speed: 100 mph (160 km/h) Range: 1,650 mi (2,755 km) with external tanks Service ceiling: 41,900 ft (12,800 m) Rate of climb: 3,200 ft/min (16.3 m/s) - better then bearcat, more fighter tuned NOTE, P-51H went 481 mph, but not used during WW2
U mentioned this plane as being debated for the best plane in WW2. It is a good call if you consider the verson i'm posting, u can compare it to the p-51s and see differences.
Specifications (Fw 190 D-9) - not sure how much it was used in ww2, it's best verson Maximum speed: 685 km/h (426 mph) at 6,600 m (21,655 ft), 710 km/h (440 mph) at 37,000 ft (11,000 m) - 3rd fastest plane mentioned Range: 835 km (519 mi) Service ceiling: 12,000 m (39,370 ft) Rate of climb: 17 m/s (3,300 ft/min) - best vertial in europe, the F15 of WW2? taking out planes from below was a blitz tactic if not mistaken....
this was mentioned, and misrepresented. Here's the non-bomber plane first, legendary for being made out of wood, and massproduced enmass (read exodus 10:12 for more ileteration). DH.98 Mosquito F. Mk II Maximum speed: 318 kn (366 mph, 610 km/h) at 21,400 ft (8,500 m)[97] Range: 782 nmi (900 mi, 1,500 km) with 410 gal (1,864 litre) fuel load at 20,000 ft (6,100 m) Service ceiling: 29,000 ft (8,839 m) Rate of climb: 1,740 ft/min (8.8 m/s) - horrible, and it wasn't a carpet bomber like next one
DH.98 Mosquito B Mk XVI Maximum speed: 361 kn (415 mph, 668 km/h) at 28,000 ft (8,500 m) Range: 1,300 nmi (1,500 mi, 2,400 km) with full weapons load Service ceiling: 37,000 ft (11,000 m) Rate of climb: 2,850 ft/min (14.5 m/s) - much better
last one mentioned Specifications (P-47D Thunderbolt) Maximum speed: 433 mph at 30,000 ft (697 km/h at 9,145 m) -less then p-51 Range: 800 mi combat, 1,800 mi ferry (1,290 km / 2,900 km) less then p-51 Service ceiling: 43,000 ft (13,100 m) - slightly more then p-51 Rate of climb: 3,120 ft/min (15.9 m/s) - less then p-51
over all comparable to p-51, but the p-47 was a bigger plane, and i'm sure carred more bombs.
I left out the YAKs and Spitfires as they don't compare performance wise. Spitfires were WAY better then the wooden mosquitos, but otherwise only known for having great G-ratings and turn ability. Yaks were russian, and sucked. they were called flying tanks cuz they were armored (some atleast, russia never fully equiped any of their armies until the 21 century).
p-51s were fastest fighter craft, took advantage of that in diving attack tactics. Fw 190 D-9) if used instead of earlier versons, woulda given p-51s a run for their money with their climb ability. if NF was realistic, we woulda had bearcats, but comon who's ever heard bearcats and not thought of a lossing highschool football team? P-51 and p-49s are iconic America and so NF went with well know instead of realism. Realisticly p-51s weren't made fast enough to serve much on carriers. If only NF would go realism OR iconic for the US subline, instead we got.... back to the future, i mean past, super junk subs. Wonder if RUssia will get Hunt for Red October....
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