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  • T4 FTR-"MUSTANG"

    08. 26. 2010 18:14

vidallo
well. im hoping that the patch today will have some historical accuracy, the mustang is
the best ftr planes ever built during the war era, it has fuel capacity that allows it to
escort long range bombers, and was commended with great maneuverability. to sum
things up, basically. it's supposed to be the best ftr plane around... what can u guys
say about this?
i even went US for CV bcoz of this plane.... hoping i wont get dissapointed.
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  • Re : T4 FTR-

    08. 30. 2010 03:30

KinLuu
US T2 beat US T4, so everyone will be running US T2. But then KM T3 beath US T2,
so everyone will run KM T3. After that they figure out that US T4 beat KM T3 and it
will be all US T4 again. US T2 beat US T4, so everyone will be running US T2. But
then KM T3 beath US T2, so everyone will run KM T3. After that they figure out that
US T4 beat KM T3 and it will be all US T4 again. US T2 beat US T4, so everyone will
be running US T2. But then KM T3 beath US T2, so everyone will run KM T3. After that
they figure out that US T4 beat KM T3 and it will be all US T4 again. US T2 beat US
T4, so everyone will be running US T2. But then KM T3 beath US T2, so everyone will
run KM T3. After that they figure out that US T4 beat KM T3 and it will be all US T4
again. US T2 beat US T4, so everyone will be running US T2. But then KM T3 beath
US T2, so everyone will run KM T3. After that they figure out that US T4 beat KM T3
and it will be all US T4 again. US T2 beat US T4, so everyone will be running US T2.
But then KM T3 beath US T2, so everyone will run KM T3. After that they figure out
that US T4 beat KM T3 and it will be all US T4 again.

Long story short, setting up a CV just became far more complex and interesting.
There is no longer a one-plane-to-rule-them-all setup like the T3 have been before,
instead you need to think about what you want to do and what your enemy is most
likely to bring. Besides, with the introduction of the T5 scouts, running a Fighter only
CV became much less effective, because you can keep the enemy scouted all the
time with 2 lvl 120 scout pilots now. Hooray for BW buff.

  • Re : T4 FTR-

    08. 30. 2010 02:13

cn0gd
that's how they suck your time and $ in.
you want to pwn.
but in the end you will find out there is no other planes other than mustang remain in the
game.
no one like to get raped. so every one go US and mustang.

  • Re : T4 FTR-

    08. 28. 2010 10:57

normpearii
Knowing SDE:

Tier 5 Fighters coming soon.....

I have to say this was one of the closes to balanced patches by SDE in a long time.

  • Re : T4 FTR-

    08. 27. 2010 17:01

Baker654
Well the Navy did eventually got a carrier based plane that rivaled the p-51 in
preformance. This plane was the F8F Bearcat. Too bad it arrived too late to see action in
ww2. I think the Bearcat would of been the 4th tier fighter for the US. It would of
finally give the Bearcat some of the recognition it deserves, after it has been in the
shadow of the Mustang for so long.

  • Re : T4 FTR-

    08. 27. 2010 15:41

Ramp4ge
Ta'dah.

Airplane porn.



  • Re : T4 FTR-

    08. 27. 2010 14:14

V2CxBongRipz
Yea, P38 was a beast and i wish they would give us fighter/bombers so we could have them.
For the record though Corsairs are much sexier. :P

  • Re : T4 FTR-

    08. 27. 2010 14:13

V2CxBongRipz
Yea, P38 was a beast and i wish they would give us fighter/bombers so we could have them.
For the record though Corsairs are much sexier. :P

  • Re : T4 FTR-

    08. 27. 2010 10:19

Ramp4ge
They were both still twin-engine wtfomfgfastataltitude aircraft, and that's where the
contest is. Fastest propjob of WWII. It's generally given to the P-38, but there are
Mosquito claims as well.

There were fighter variants of the Mosquito, and it was very successful as a night
fighter/interceptor.

P-38 was used to incredible success in the Pacific theater. In fact, it may have been
more successful in the Pacific then it was in Europe. Operating from airfields on the
islands, P-38s kicked some serious butt in the Pacific theater. Remember, it was a group
of P-38's that downed Yamamoto's flight.

I may be biased, but I just so happen to believe that the P-38 was the most beautiful
thing to ever spin a prop. :) Or two.

  • Re : T4 FTR-

    08. 27. 2010 08:50

V2CxBongRipz
"A claim that's hotly contested with the Mosquito. "

The mosquito was dual prop with a wooden body. Of course it was faster. Those are different
sorts of planes though. The mosquito was more of an attack plane rather then a true
fighter. :P

  • Re : T4 FTR-

    08. 26. 2010 22:37

Doneman
nice historical postings. Last post before this thing gets lock (unless someone can get
us back on T4 talk...).

vasuba bearcats are alwsome, they were very manuvable and used a lot. THey would be
out premeire naval plane, as that's the one most used on CVs. All following data from
wikipedia..

Specifications F8F-1 and F8F-2:
Maximum speed: 421 mph (366 kn, 678 km/h) - probly fastest production carrier plane
Range: 1,105 mi (1,778 km)
Service ceiling: 38,700 ft (11,796 m)
Rate of climb: 4,570 ft/min (23.2 m/s) - best climb of the ones mentioned? Carrier
craft needed this, F15 of navy fighters?....

Ramp4ge well spoken and insightfull. P-38 stuff is right on target. It had the War
emergency power engine that was used more then other planes if i'm not mistaken.
Making it the fastest plane, and great for the hit and runs it did in Europe.

P-38L - fastest plane when in turbo, fastest prop bomber/close air support
Maximum speed: 443 mph (712 km/h) on War Emergency Power: 1,725 hp at 64 inHG
and 28,000 ft (8530 m)[88][89]
Stall speed: 105 mph (170 km/h)
Range: 1,300 mi combat (1,770 km / 3,640 km)
Service ceiling: 44,000 ft (13,400 m)
Rate of climb: 4,750 ft/min (1,448 m/min) maximum

nuff said right, p-38s were alwsome, but this is navy field and they don't fit, so i carry
on to other mentioned planes.

P-51D Mustang (as the P-51Hs were not used much till after the war they are excluded)
Maximum speed: 437 mph (703 km/h) at 25,000 ft (7,600 m) - 2nd fastest (#1=P-38)
Cruise speed: 362 mph (580 km/h)
Stall speed: 100 mph (160 km/h)
Range: 1,650 mi (2,755 km) with external tanks
Service ceiling: 41,900 ft (12,800 m)
Rate of climb: 3,200 ft/min (16.3 m/s) - better then bearcat, more fighter tuned
NOTE, P-51H went 481 mph, but not used during WW2

U mentioned this plane as being debated for the best plane in WW2. It is a good call if
you consider the verson i'm posting, u can compare it to the p-51s and see differences.

Specifications (Fw 190 D-9) - not sure how much it was used in ww2, it's best verson
Maximum speed: 685 km/h (426 mph) at 6,600 m (21,655 ft), 710 km/h (440 mph) at
37,000 ft (11,000 m) - 3rd fastest plane mentioned
Range: 835 km (519 mi)
Service ceiling: 12,000 m (39,370 ft)
Rate of climb: 17 m/s (3,300 ft/min) - best vertial in europe, the F15 of WW2? taking
out planes from below was a blitz tactic if not mistaken....

this was mentioned, and misrepresented. Here's the non-bomber plane first, legendary
for being made out of wood, and massproduced enmass (read exodus 10:12 for more
ileteration).
DH.98 Mosquito F. Mk II
Maximum speed: 318 kn (366 mph, 610 km/h) at 21,400 ft (8,500 m)[97]
Range: 782 nmi (900 mi, 1,500 km) with 410 gal (1,864 litre) fuel load at 20,000 ft
(6,100 m)
Service ceiling: 29,000 ft (8,839 m)
Rate of climb: 1,740 ft/min (8.8 m/s) - horrible, and it wasn't a carpet bomber like next
one

DH.98 Mosquito B Mk XVI
Maximum speed: 361 kn (415 mph, 668 km/h) at 28,000 ft (8,500 m)
Range: 1,300 nmi (1,500 mi, 2,400 km) with full weapons load
Service ceiling: 37,000 ft (11,000 m)
Rate of climb: 2,850 ft/min (14.5 m/s) - much better

last one mentioned
Specifications (P-47D Thunderbolt)
Maximum speed: 433 mph at 30,000 ft (697 km/h at 9,145 m) -less then p-51
Range: 800 mi combat, 1,800 mi ferry (1,290 km / 2,900 km) less then p-51
Service ceiling: 43,000 ft (13,100 m) - slightly more then p-51
Rate of climb: 3,120 ft/min (15.9 m/s) - less then p-51

over all comparable to p-51, but the p-47 was a bigger plane, and i'm sure carred more
bombs.

I left out the YAKs and Spitfires as they don't compare performance wise. Spitfires
were WAY better then the wooden mosquitos, but otherwise only known for having
great G-ratings and turn ability. Yaks were russian, and sucked. they were called flying
tanks cuz they were armored (some atleast, russia never fully equiped any of their
armies until the 21 century).

p-51s were fastest fighter craft, took advantage of that in diving attack tactics. Fw 190
D-9) if used instead of earlier versons, woulda given p-51s a run for their money with
their climb ability. if NF was realistic, we woulda had bearcats, but comon who's ever
heard bearcats and not thought of a lossing highschool football team? P-51 and p-49s
are iconic America and so NF went with well know instead of realism. Realisticly p-51s
weren't made fast enough to serve much on carriers. If only NF would go realism OR
iconic for the US subline, instead we got.... back to the future, i mean past, super junk
subs. Wonder if RUssia will get Hunt for Red October....
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