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    01. 31. 2011 08:09

Thrakhath
As the subject refers, I'm wondering if anyone had ever used MN support crews, eg. engies
and reps, regardless of 4/4 or 4/3 or 5/2 or any other setups, on their KM ships as the
main support crew? If there are, how is the performance? Any differences than using the
original KM supports?

I'm considering using those French as my bread and butter mercenaries.. Hahaha.. ^_^
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  • Re : MN Supports on KM ships

    02. 25. 2011 09:57

Thrakhath
Since its event time, I just can't wait to test the myth ^_^.. I have vetted a few of my
MN support crews. My result is based on SD difference those sailors roughly give. I
assume the other stats such as OH time and repair rate would be affected the same way too..

Before vet : 440 SD average with 350 experts (four sailor lvl 73 20% boosted)
After vet : 390 SD average with 50 vets and 250 experts (four sailor lvl 73 20% boosted)

Those sailors are not yet skeletonized, but I think I can make the conclusion, albeit it
may not be the final conclusion.

It may be a sad thing to see and experience, but I have to say the MN/KM cross nation does
have it's penalty, and furthermore if vetting them will give performance reduction of
approximately 12% every 50 vets. Therefore, if putting the 58% efficiency as base fact
(compared to original KM supports), it will reduce the performance to approximately 52%
efficiency with every 50 vets.

And this experiment may prove that the "expert works and not vets when crossing nation"
myth is true and plausible.. I wonder if this affects the same with allied..

Thank you so much for all giving their opinion and cooperation..

LOL, I think my MN crews just backstabbed my KM.. Instead of bread and butter
mercenaries, I became cookies.. =P

  • Re : MN Supports on KM ships

    02. 22. 2011 11:05

V2CxBongRipz
I cant remember who it was exactly who told me that but he used UK supports on his USN BB
(or the other way around)

  • Re : MN Supports on KM ships

    02. 22. 2011 07:10

Thrakhath
Woah..

The mystery deepens. Thank you Mr. V2CXBong for highlighting. Looks like I have to get
some expert and vet packs to test the newfound theory, and leave a few for control sample.
Just for update, I am now trying to level the crew to be at level with Bismarck BB3
(Level 80). From there at least I "maybe" able to see and feel the effect of the crew.

  • Re : MN Supports on KM ships

    02. 21. 2011 16:29

V2CxBongRipz
One thing I have heard is that the effect of allied crew is that only experts work, not
vets. This is of course something that I have not tested though I am inclined to believe
it because of who I heard it from. This is something that can be tested with 2 different
MN (or IJN) sailors on a KM boat. They must have different vet %s though.

  • Re : MN Supports on KM ships

    02. 18. 2011 08:07

Thrakhath
o.O

57% efficiency.. Hmmm.. Thanks all for sharing your information. May I ask Mr. Tabihun,
is your crew by any chance E/BVE?

  • Re : MN Supports on KM ships

    02. 16. 2011 12:36

Tabihun
All MN supports works on KM ships with 57,8% effinency. Repairs and engies aswell. A
lvl90+ crew better than a lvl60 so if you just want to try Dland or P proj a high lvl MN
crew isn't useless. But if you want to grind up to H44 and Kaiser I argree with you.

  • Re : MN Supports on KM ships

    02. 14. 2011 09:16

Verfallen
@mesy

2 MN repairs on a KM CV6 doesnt repair crap seeing as the CV6 wont leave harbor unless all
slots are filled by 115+ KM sailors including at least 5 115 pilots.


Now for the point of that discussion :


ONLY one sailor works cross nation, and those are US Medic/UK ships KM medic/IJN ships.

Not sure enough bout MN ship tree on the CV side to know where it fits.

The rest all receive efty penalty, even more if its an Allied/Axis mix.



Conlusion : Any self respecting NF player have other nation sailors on a ship for leveling
purpose only. If you plan on using an USN crew to level your UK BO with 2 gunners, you sir
are an idiot. (This is a general statement about stupidity and doesn't aim anyone. Unless
someone reading this IS leveling his UK BO with USN sailor. Then by all mean, consider
yourself dumb)


You want another ship line on another nation, level a new crew, or find someone whol sells
theirs. Or put a cork in it and keep playing the nation(s) you already have if you dont
want to level new guys from the ground up or dont want to spend creds for them.

But dont go and be a crap BB that can't take care of itself and keep asking cv to cover
his sorry no SD, no rep rate and no OH time arse.

  • Re : MN Supports on KM ships

    02. 14. 2011 05:36

Tabihun
My MN supports have 420SD on an AD and 726 SD on a richellieu without BO and gunners. So
it works good. I have 5 reps and 4 engies. The repairrate is also good better than with at
lvl KM repairs. There's only one huge disadvantage. The engies works with only 57% but the
crew is heavier so the max speed maybe lower, but the OH time is good.

726*x/100=420 ---> x=57,85123966942149%.

  • Re : MN Supports on KM ships

    02. 10. 2011 18:30

V2CxBongRipz
Put one of the MN sailors on an MN boat and look at the SD it adds. Put the same MN sailor
on a KM boat and look at the SD. Use the difference in those 2 numbers to calculate the %
of effectiveness.

  • Re : MN Supports on KM ships

    02. 07. 2011 08:23

ArcticHaze
MN sailors will retain 60% of their ability on any nation. This is funny because they
should in some sense receive an Allied/Axis penalty but MN is completely not the case.
I wonder if SN will be affected. =/

I too am lvling MN supports on another nation but in a Shinano and it's not a pleasant
experience either since I'm reducing my effectiveness along that I'm no good in high tier
BBs. =(
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