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    04. 30. 2011 06:07

t0ryu_SK
I would like to train soviet landing force.

But... What guns can you mount on the landing ship except HH?
Any usable AA guns? The slot space is 61. These slots are biggest of all APA ships and I still cannot
figure out any usable setup.
All soviet guns below 61 space have really poor AA damage and bad reload time. Minizinis take 61
space so you cannot load any ammo, SD-2 take 65 :(

2x 3.9"/56 B-24BM Pattern 1939,
AA damage 53, reload 2s, space 50 -> 5 binds (250rds), ga 38
1x 4.7"/50 Pattern 1905,
AA damage 57, reload 2.04s, space 37 -> 10 binds (500rds), ga 30
2x 3.9"/56 B-34 Pattern 1940,
AA damage 53, reload 2.24s, space 50 -> 5 binds (250rds), ga 32
1x 5.1"/55 Pattern 1913,
AA damage 85, reload 2.48s, space 43 -> 6 binds (300rds), ga 33

for example german APA ship has slot space 58
2x 3.46"/76 SK C/32, AA damage 68, reload 0.8s, space 24 -> 20 binds (700rds)
2x 4.1"/65 SK C/33 A, AA damage 84, reload 1.2s, space 25 -> 16 binds (800rds)
2x 5"/61 KM 40, AA damage 99, reload 1.2s, space 37 -> 8 binds (280rds)
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  • Re : Soviet APA ship (Type LCT)

    05. 01. 2011 04:28

ATFPanther
APA are rarely used with Landing Force in HA. Mostly they are used to get past stalled
tiles by getting to the other side.

Using a APA in the harbour tile (where the landing force would be used) is no where near
as effective as using a BB6 in that ship spot.

Now, some time back, Yuno said they were to develop the APA line to make it more useful
and not such a dead end. The logical thing is a higher level APA that provides good ASW
and / or AA support. Then it MAY be used as intended. Maybe a BB1 level ship that can use
sonar and each nations best AA guns?

I do not hold my breath that Yuno even remembers putting this in one of the news updates.

Panther

  • Re : Soviet APA ship (Type LCT)

    04. 30. 2011 19:12

t0ryu_SK
Im really not sure if buffing slot space is the most fortunate way.

But IMO 75 would be the best value.
In this case, you would be able to mount Minizinis + 7binds of ammo (350rds) or SD-2 + 3binds
(150rds).

But it could create unexpected balance problems if other guns are used
1x6"/45 Pattern 1892 - 4binds,
2x6"/45 Pattern 1892 - 1bind,
or even 1x8"/45 Pattern 1892 - 1 bind
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I still think that creating Minizini AA only clone version with space requirements 30 (all the other
characteristics the same as original) would be good.
This way also low lvl DDs could be able to be used as AA support (just like german Z1).

  • Re : Soviet APA ship (Type LCT)

    04. 30. 2011 17:36

angus725
If the APA gun space was to be buffed, what should it be? creating sets of guns should
be a last resort.

  • Re : Soviet APA ship (Type LCT)

    04. 30. 2011 16:04

t0ryu_SK
It is still unfortunate that there are no usable AA guns for smaller ships.
What about making another set of Minizinis, basically a clone with the same reload, weight, damage.
The only difference would be the space (for example 30) and it could only use AA ammo. This way
you could choose if you want dual purpose guns or just AA guns...

  • Re : Soviet APA ship (Type LCT)

    04. 30. 2011 14:36

angus725
Blood, what's the point of good res/rep if you don't have any crew on him...

  • Re : Soviet APA ship (Type LCT)

    04. 30. 2011 13:57

bloodsky
Warning: APA Ship is only good for Harbor Assault!

Get a sailor with +11/+11 Restore/Repair,keep him VERY low on recruits, powerlevel him to
30, then class as a BO.

For SN/MN DO NOT USE AA GUNNERS. Use only regular gunners!!!
Also, you only need ONE landing force. Make sure he is +13/+14 potential.

  • Re : Soviet APA ship (Type LCT)

    04. 30. 2011 10:19

angus725
If you're playing a HA, your team should be defending you; IMO, it's best to use a repair
and a restore for the R slots.

  • Re : Soviet APA ship (Type LCT)

    04. 30. 2011 08:48

Dersico
Edit: Oops, gun set changes nerfed the APA. it's not better than the others.

  • Re : Soviet APA ship (Type LCT)

    04. 30. 2011 06:57

t0ryu_SK
Thank you for the helpful info about the crew.

But in this post I'm more concerned about the ship itself.
Is it worth it starting soviet landing crew?
Wouldn't for example german boat do a better job in self defence?
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