scharnhorst ---> gneisenau ---> bismarck.. i love bismarck

The addition of 2 extra singles on the P II helps a great deal, since they fill the gap
between the two widely spaced triples on the ends of the ship. And the BC I FCS
also makes a huge difference, since you'll be able to spot shells nearer to max
range.

As for the Scharn, yes, you can only fit 2 binds with the 3x11" c34 Ls, which really
isn't enough. The P II can fit 3 binds in the triples and one in the singles, giving it a
total of 40 salvoes. But it limits you to one type of ammo, so choose wisely.

PPro2 is lvl59 i think. By that time your gunners will be able to handle it. I just used
it at lvl51 and its gotten a lot better. No more super insane spread, now i can land
at least 1 shell per salvo. My gunners are crappy too so it doesn't help either.

The 'Horst only gets 2 binds with the second tier 11" Ls. Which sucks! Give
the 'Horst another 10 R space :p.

How come i hear some problem about ammo capacity with the schorhest when
compared to the O or Ps?

"Why do i see scharnhorst and P II using them?"

Several reasons. First, when you get a scharn and/or P II you have level 59/62
gunners, presumably, who can both reduce the reload and increase the accuracy.
Next, you have a different set of 3x11" guns. The level 45 guns may have an
accuracy penalty, which would fit with teamnf's policy of making life hell on people
who don't pick britain as their nation. At level 60 a second series of 3x11" guns is
available with a faster reload, more range, and possibly more accuracy. Or it's just a
factor of having higher level gunners, although I think testing has shown it's more
then that.

Plus, there are no other guns to use. The P II, Scharn, O I, and Gneisenau all use
the same 3x11" guns. There simply aren't any alternatives. Since the level 60 guns
are actually good, this isn't really a problem, except that you're stuck with the same
guns for 20 levels. Or 35 if you went the PS route.

I saw a kburg a while ago with 3 11" singles. That thing looked dangerous, except he
couldn't hit much of anything.

the 11" on the dland are soso. i started with lvl 53 gunners... very low ability at first. now they are around 90% to 100% and are 57. and the ship rulz when i can aim right.... i cant mark my shells above angle 35. so alot of guess work to get bairing till you get a hit...
spread sucked at first. but now is bairable... i can get hits for 4k damage on just about everyship. and you can play with low lvl BC cause your range is close to the same....
but the reload kills me and most ppl... other ppl get to shoot 3 times to my one so they can adj alot easier..
just to through this out there my best crit from one shell was 6400 lol. beat that.

Dland is fun but go hipper i like being part of the minority.... there are more hipper line ships now than dland line =D

I tried it out today, it was pretty dang ugly. Average damage per CL/CA (vancouver)=6k(about 800-1k exp) most dmg-10k least dmg-3k

velius wonder how many bads can you say at this post if that triple 11" is so bad?

if its so bad? y do i c scharnhorst and P-pro II using them?