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Interesting facts about the KM H type class Battleships
06. 09. 2011 12:52

Dreadnoughtw	after 2 min search on google about the Submarine classes i found some interesting data about the H type class BB's KM had planned and his armaments General characteristics Type: Battleship Displacement: H39: 56,444 t (55,553 LT; 62,219 ST) H41: 68,800 t (67,700 LT; 75,800 ST) H42: 90,000 t (89,000 LT; 99,000 ST) H43: 111,000 t (109,000 LT; 122,000 ST) H44: 131,000 t (129,000 LT; 144,000 ST)[Note 1] Length: H39: 277.8 m (911 ft 5 in) H41: 282 m (925 ft 2 in) H42: 305 m (1,000 ft 8 in) H43: 330 m (1,082 ft 8 in) H44: 345 m (1,131 ft 11 in) Beam: H39: 37 m (121 ft 5 in) H41: 39 m (127 ft 11 in) H42: 42.8 m (140 ft 5 in) H43: 48 m (157 ft 6 in) H44: 51.5 m (169 ft 0 in) Draft: H39: 10 m (32 ft 10 in) H41: 11.1 m (36 ft 5 in) H42: 11.8 m (38 ft 9 in) H43: 12 m (39 ft 4 in) H44: 12.7 m (41 ft 8 in)[Note 2] Propulsion: 12 ?MAN 9-cylinder diesel engines Speed: H39: 30 knots (56 km/h) maximum H41: 28.8 knots (53.3 km/h) H42: 32.2 knots (59.6 km/h) H43: 31 knots (57 km/h) H44: 30.1 knots (55.7 km/h) Range: H39:19,200 nautical miles (35,600 km) at 19 knots (35 km/h) H41?4:20,000 nautical miles (37,000 km) at 19 knots (35 km/h) Armament: H39: 8 ?40.6 cm (16.0 in) guns 12 ?15 cm (5.9 in) guns 16 ?10.5 cm (4.1 in) guns 16 ?3.7 cm (1.5 in) 12 ?2 cm (0.79 in) guns H41: 8 ?42 cm (17 in) guns 12 ?15 cm (5.9 in) guns 16 ?10.5 cm (4.1 in) guns 32 ?3.7 cm (1.5 in) 12 ?2 cm (0.79 in) guns 6 ?53.3 cm (21.0 in) torpedo tubes H42: 8 ?48 cm (19 in) guns[Note 3] 12 ?15 cm (5.9 in) guns 16 ?10.5 cm (4.1 in) guns 28 ?3.7 cm (1.5 in) 40 ?2 cm (0.79 in) guns H43: 8 ?48 cm (19 in) guns[Note 4] 12 ?15 cm (5.9 in) guns 16 ?10.5 cm (4.1 in) guns 28 ?3.7 cm (1.5 in) 40 ?2 cm (0.79 in) guns H44: 8 ?50.8 cm (20.0 in) guns 12 ?15 cm (5.9 in) guns 16 ?10.5 cm (4.1 in) guns 28 ?3.7 cm (1.5 in) 40 ?2 cm (0.79 in) guns Aircraft carried: 4? Arado 196 seaplanes Aviation facilities: 1 catapult note the H44 type armament 20" guns!! so i ask, what was SDE thinking when they invented the 18.45" guns for H44 lol was SDE afraid that KM was to uber to own other ships? or they just messed up IJN and KM ships( this is guns and armor its what im refering) to begin with ;P PS: try not to flame war this topic and make constructive posts, remember its just a refering note and a call for attention to where they messed up in creating the guns ^^ PS n?: case ppl wondering where i get this heres the link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H_class_battleship_proposals

Dreadnoughtw

after 2 min search on google about the Submarine classes i found some interesting data
about the H type class BB's KM had planned and his armaments

General characteristics
Type: Battleship
Displacement:

H39: 56,444 t (55,553 LT; 62,219 ST)
H41: 68,800 t (67,700 LT; 75,800 ST)
H42: 90,000 t (89,000 LT; 99,000 ST)
H43: 111,000 t (109,000 LT; 122,000 ST)
H44: 131,000 t (129,000 LT; 144,000 ST)[Note 1]
Length:

H39: 277.8 m (911 ft 5 in)
H41: 282 m (925 ft 2 in)
H42: 305 m (1,000 ft 8 in)
H43: 330 m (1,082 ft 8 in)
H44: 345 m (1,131 ft 11 in)
Beam:

H39: 37 m (121 ft 5 in)
H41: 39 m (127 ft 11 in)
H42: 42.8 m (140 ft 5 in)
H43: 48 m (157 ft 6 in)
H44: 51.5 m (169 ft 0 in)
Draft:

H39: 10 m (32 ft 10 in)
H41: 11.1 m (36 ft 5 in)
H42: 11.8 m (38 ft 9 in)
H43: 12 m (39 ft 4 in)
H44: 12.7 m (41 ft 8 in)[Note 2]
Propulsion: 12 ?MAN 9-cylinder diesel engines
Speed:

H39: 30 knots (56 km/h) maximum
H41: 28.8 knots (53.3 km/h)
H42: 32.2 knots (59.6 km/h)
H43: 31 knots (57 km/h)
H44: 30.1 knots (55.7 km/h)
Range:

H39:19,200 nautical miles (35,600 km) at 19 knots (35 km/h)
H41?4:20,000 nautical miles (37,000 km) at 19 knots (35 km/h)
Armament:

H39: 8 ?40.6 cm (16.0 in) guns
12 ?15 cm (5.9 in) guns
16 ?10.5 cm (4.1 in) guns
16 ?3.7 cm (1.5 in)
12 ?2 cm (0.79 in) guns

H41: 8 ?42 cm (17 in) guns
12 ?15 cm (5.9 in) guns
16 ?10.5 cm (4.1 in) guns
32 ?3.7 cm (1.5 in)
12 ?2 cm (0.79 in) guns
6 ?53.3 cm (21.0 in) torpedo tubes

H42: 8 ?48 cm (19 in) guns[Note 3]
12 ?15 cm (5.9 in) guns
16 ?10.5 cm (4.1 in) guns
28 ?3.7 cm (1.5 in)
40 ?2 cm (0.79 in) guns

H43: 8 ?48 cm (19 in) guns[Note 4]
12 ?15 cm (5.9 in) guns
16 ?10.5 cm (4.1 in) guns
28 ?3.7 cm (1.5 in)
40 ?2 cm (0.79 in) guns

H44: 8 ?50.8 cm (20.0 in) guns
12 ?15 cm (5.9 in) guns
16 ?10.5 cm (4.1 in) guns
28 ?3.7 cm (1.5 in)
40 ?2 cm (0.79 in) guns

Aircraft carried: 4? Arado 196 seaplanes
Aviation facilities: 1 catapult

note the H44 type armament

20" guns!!

so i ask, what was SDE thinking when they invented the 18.45" guns for H44 lol

was SDE afraid that KM was to uber to own other ships? or they just messed up IJN and KM
ships( this is guns and armor its what im refering) to begin with ;P

PS: try not to flame war this topic and make constructive posts, remember its just a
refering note and a call for attention to where they messed up in creating the guns ^^

PS n?:
case ppl wondering where i get this heres the link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H_class_battleship_proposals

Re : Interesting facts about the KM H type class Battleships
06. 10. 2011 02:58

Emma9	Well technically they could've made the 20" gun and give it the current 18" damage, hence maintaining the balance. But then again, it would simply be a difference of numbers.

Re : Interesting facts about the KM H type class Battleships
06. 09. 2011 17:22

AndrusN	Welcome to Navy Field; a massively multiplayer online tactics "simulation"game "based on World War II naval warfare" by SD EnterNet.

Re : Interesting facts about the KM H type class Battleships
06. 09. 2011 14:37

ljsevern	Historical Accuracy =/= Game Balance. Game Balance > Historical Accuracy

Re : Interesting facts about the KM H type class Battleships
06. 09. 2011 13:30

Dreadnoughtw	well true its not totally historical accurate but more then 80% of the guns in the game, like their calibers are accurate, only thing most of hem are not 100% true its the angles for exemple i think i remember some1 saying that the iowa guns were only 40?angle while in the game their 45?angle yamato main guns were the same i think @clemo i think i remember that discussion way back i think yuno response was it was too fictional and inaccurate lol as the guns were to heavy for the ship to move fast

Dreadnoughtw

well true its not totally historical accurate but more then 80% of the guns in the game,
like their calibers are accurate, only thing most of hem are not 100% true its the angles

for exemple i think i remember some1 saying that the iowa guns were only 40?angle while
in the game their 45?angle
yamato main guns were the same i think

@clemo i think i remember that discussion way back
i think yuno response was it was too fictional and inaccurate lol as the guns were to
heavy for the ship to move fast

Re : Interesting facts about the KM H type class Battleships
06. 09. 2011 13:29

clemo85	There was also discussion over whether the H44 should have 32'' guns Oo I would love KM forever if that was the case!

Re : Interesting facts about the KM H type class Battleships
06. 09. 2011 13:11

rocketeer1	I must have missed the part where it says this game is historically accurate? I thought it was just a game.

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