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  • Support ships - expand APA line

    07. 20. 2006 05:11

ypsylon
Ok, its not a secret that NF need some support ships on battlefield.

How about expanding future Harbor Assault ship line? So far there is only 1 ship/
nation - APA. What I propsing is to put all support ships in this line - because doing
one BO for only APA ship is pointless. Now I will suggest few classes of ships. I doing
this from my memory so excuse me but example will be performed on IJN ships :)

@ lvl 30 APA ship -> @ lvl 35 seaplane tender -> @ lvl ~40 repair ship -> @ lvl 45
minelayer -> @ ~52 invasion fire support vessel.

Ok, so for example:

@ lvl 35 IJN will get IJN Mizuho (15000 ts displ, 25 scouts, 6 R slots, 28 kts)
@ lvl 40 IJN will get (whatever repair ship, dont remember names at the moment ;) )
@ lvl 45 IJN will get IJN Itsukishima (similiar as Mizuho except no 25 scouts, and ~
300 mines)
@ lvl 52 IJN will get IJN Settsu (22000 ts displ, 6 R slots for 12" Mod 1905, 22 kts)

Now I know mines are long way ahead, and repair ships perhaps too, but seaplane
tenders and fire support vessels could be added right now.

Seaplne tenders idea is similiar for all nations (except KM look below). 15-25 scouts
(IJN tenders carried most of all), 6-8 light guns and speed between 20-30 kts. (also
here IJN has the fastes ships). Seaplane tenders will need one more scout type
plane. For IJN H8K Emily, USN PBY Catalina, UK Short Sunderland and KM some
Dornier (forgot name :P). Point is: long range recon flying boat.

Minelayer, also few light guns, limited speed and between 300-500 mines.

Before everyone starting moanig about 6R slots on Settsu and compare it to Ise/
Fuso. Settsu was old dreadnought not existing in WWII. The point is to add such
ship for every nation where you can utilise useless guns (range). When ship is only
purely for shore invasion fire support, there is no need to have awesome range, and
also speed is another thing which hamper very much usefulness in anything else.

Perhaps USN will get USS Wyoming. 6 R slots too, and also 12" dual useless guns.
KM for example Kaiser class 5*2*12", and RN Dreadnought itself! The only problem
is with KM, because KM did not build single seaplane tender, but Im sure TNF will
make another super-uber ship for KM of their own deisgn :P

Support ships FTW!

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  • Re : Support ships - expand APA line

    02. 17. 2011 14:34

silentsubusa
Ok, Let me share my ideas.

Apa line needs to be reconnected at cv2.

So, the ships tree would look something like this

DD1
|
APA----------------------------------APA2
|
Minesweeper ----------------------minesweeper 2
|
Sonar---------------------------------Sonar2
|
Seaplane-----------------------------Seaplane tender 2
tender
|
CV2

So, the normal APA would be same, the minesweeper would be just like a APA but
with a low rear deck and 4-6 T slots for mines. The sonarship would be like the
minesweeper, but would lay sonarbouys instead. Seaplane tender would carry 4-6
large long range scouts, like the PBY catalina.

Then, after this is done, you would connect back up to CV2.

This way, the people going to CV will take a different route and we will have more
variety.

See my seperate post on the PT boat/Corvette for a solution for the SS grind, and
neutral frigates.

  • Re : Support ships - expand APA line

    02. 17. 2011 12:21

grandearmee
:) Good.

  • Re : Support ships - expand APA line

    02. 17. 2011 12:13

leaderwolf
Bump for a good idea.

  • Re : Support ships - expand APA line

    01. 20. 2011 18:38

chipmunk007
id like it for the mine layers

  • Re : Support ships - expand APA line

    01. 20. 2011 02:52

Lucw1990
great idea, recc

  • Re : Support ships - expand APA line

    01. 19. 2011 21:55

Stormvanger
I like the seaplane tender idea. That ship in particular could serve as an AA ship
that can launch squadrons of mine-dropping scouts. Cool.

I'll recommend just for that.

  • Re : Support ships - expand APA line

    01. 19. 2011 16:41

V2CxBongRipz
According to one of Yunos old updates the new HA will also include more apas for the apa line.

  • Re : Support ships - expand APA line

    01. 19. 2011 16:34

Megadone
finelly somebody used a *search for necro*

congrats :)

I like 3 out of 4....

I just don't like the idea of a Repair ship...simple as that...thats why we have
repairs -.-

cheers
Megadone

  • Re : Support ships - expand APA line

    01. 19. 2011 15:19

silentsubusa
Ok, if we need support ships, what are support slots for?

I think the support ship is an idea, but i dont think it will happen, at least the way
things are going now. However, i like the minelayer idea, and i was thinking what if we
had a sonarship too? let me explain:

The sonarship would just be a minelayer, but instead of laying mines, it would lay sonar
bouys. These would have significantly less range than ship sonar, but could be dropped
and then left to listen to subs coming by. The APA could have this as an extension of
the ship itself, until it sinks, then the bouys go away. The bouys could be seen by the
enemy team, and could be shot just like mines, but they would not blow up when they
are run over.

  • Re : Support ships - expand APA line

    08. 13. 2006 05:55

ATFPanther
And NF needes support ships? WHY?

I see little benefit in support ships or minelayers, etc. and I feel that such a
fundamental change to the game is firstly, not needed and secondly not programmable in
this game engine.

Panther
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