Blockshots are stupid. Unlrealistic and unbalanced. The quad 14"s may not have the range of the KM 11" guns, but they outdamage them by far. Also with 14" quads you can outrange all CAs (except Ppro) and a lot of BCs and BB1s. Being able to rape them in one salvo also helps with crappier range. I have seen Hanlei (or whatever his name is on CC) sink 6 enemy boats in about 45 seconds. His reload time is nuts and his accuracy is just absurd.

Done properly, the Nelson should have good firepower, good armor, and just about the worst speed of any BB in the game.

Nelsons shouldn't be able to blockshot.

I'm not too concerned about nerfing the Nelson, just the blockshotting quad 14" guns.

you forget that german 14.96" have terrible range, they are even almost outranged by 11" guns(also german) although i don't know the range of brit quad 14" i do have to say that german bb's also have a hard time against the nelsons(because of there armour)

Let me explain more in detail for people like Kaeru who don't understand.

1. It is unfair to totally remove Nelsons from stock. Once you are that high up the ship line, it takes forever to make it to the next ship.

2. The problem is not necessarily the Nelson, but rather the quad 14" guns. I imagine that the longer Nelsons are out of stock, the more likely other quad 14" mounting BBs are going to appear.

3. No sane person can regard the stock system as a perfect solution. It is at best an emergency tool and should only be used for short periods while permanent fixes are implemented.

Also, since you brought it up, the proper fix for the Sima is not to reduce its numbers, but to fix the problems with torpedos (namely splash damage and detonation at max range). Reducing the maximum top speed of the Sima would be a nice touch as well.

As a temporary solutions is OK, but the same way - remove Z99 from stocks. If Shimakaze is overpowered then Z99 is 2* or 3* overpowered than Shimakaze.

If it was good enough to stop simas cos they were unbalanced then it sounds like a perfect solution to me.

I am for it.

And the range of German BB guns helps the rest of us how?

great temporary solution..but remember the quads are apparently ranged by all geram guns of that lvl so as long as you stay out of range....

Thanks for the support :)