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daschasman
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razzrockbolt is not one to speak about partiality, as he likes twisting the truth almost as much as ManiacDC. of course, he's a player, and a brit player, so it's perhaps understandable...but if you think there's nothing wrong with germans, and if you think they are evenly competitive with brits, then you are ignoring the vast majority of the playerbase, which think brits are overpowered compared to everyone.
I claim that the majority is right in this case, and in a pvp game, unfair advantages are a pretty big deal. Obst, along with many players, actively try to rectify this major problem with any nation ("worthless US guns, jap BB <77,...."). If you want to tell me that everyone else is wrong about blockshotting/RP12-ranging/high-damage brits being stronger than other nations (as laoji/smedd/etc have mentioned), well, I'll treat you like I treat any loud, stubborn person, and just leave you alone in your nonsense. Seems fitting and fair to me.
Also, distorted bullshit like the mythical 17 level grind to get a york is really pretty disgusting. Here's 3 views, and the worst span between them.
SHIP LEVEL ONLY:
28-34 dido, 34-37 sirius, to york. 6 levels.
28-34 dido, 34-35 sirius, to edinburgh. 6 levels.
30-37 K/Z99, 37-48 mpro, to hipper. 11 levels.
30-37 K/Z99, 37-45 to deutchland. 8 levels.
note, brits do not have it worse, in fact better on both lines.
SHIP USABILITY ONLY (gun availability/usability, on common advice):
33-34 dido, 34-43 sirius, to york. 9 levels.
28-34 dido, 34-35 sirius, to edinburgh. 6 levels.
32-39 K/Z99, 39-48 mpro, to hipper. 11 levels.
32-39 K/Z99, 39-55 mpro, to deutchland. 16 levels.
note, brits do not have it worse, again, better on both lines. 9 is getting long, but normal compared to the other 4 nations, and definitely not as bad as 11 or 16, especially since those 11 or 16 levels start later and thus contain more exp.
LAUGHABLE BULLCRAP:
28-45 dido, from dual 5.25inch N dido, that is extremely NOT advised on the brit forum, to a fully usable york with triple 8inch, even the L version of the 8inch triples. maniacdc apparently suggests not taking the level 43 8inch triples.
37-45 mpro, as soon as possible, using a gun that has less range than the level 35 guns, to a deutchland so bad that people contemplate quitting when they get it. oh yea, it's packing the N version, because L versions only matter for brits, apparently.
or maybe they matter for distorted comparisons too? this is maniacdc's silly thought of an 8 level german grind, as posted in RN forums. note it's ignorant of other lines on both nations, but brits came out ahead in both lines of both nations with both of the semi-believable examples.
oh yea, those 8 barrels of level 35 guns AND the level 39 guns pack the damage of 6inch singles, the kind you fit on a Q, or the kind that you fit doubles of on a sirius (10 barrels)...except the german ones reload at 4.96 or 4.76 seconds, depending on if you have the s version or not, while the brit ones reload at 3.60 seconds for the doubles on sirius, or 3.28-3.44 seconds for the singles on a Q at level 19-21. THANK GOD the german guns have range. btw, the brit guns start moderately accurate, whereas the german guns have a natural spread that is comical to watch.
(think a 2x4 block of 8 county's, that'll catch most, but not all, of the shells in one volley of 6.75 at max angle, when using the guns at earliest level)
that's the only way i can come up with maniacdc's mythological 17 levels of epic suffering brit-ness, and that's still counting the sirius as a dido. it's pretty much accepted that the dido is often food, but the sirius is deadly if in range. i'd say they're different ships, because one is pretty darn good, and the other only shines when invincible to small dd shells. btw, wanna recommend level 28 didos on RN forums, since you seem to think it's normal? people often even advise to SKIP the dido, since by the time it's good/usable, it's level 33 anyway. you KNOW this yet twist the facts so badly, it's almost outright lying.
sorry if it's partially a flame, but i really hate exaggerated and distorted facts. throw those around lightly, and sooner or later someone will catch them, then totally demolish them.
btw i often see brit 8inch doing mid 700's to high 800's per shell, and i often see german 8inch doing 450-550 per shell, so i claim that your damage numbers are suspect as well. so much wrong/distorted in your post..when you have to stoop to borderline lies, perhaps your cause is not worth supporting? (your apparent cause, being "don't whine, brits have it worse.")
also, the eugen is a level 54 remodel of a level 48 hipper, so i would hope it was better than a level 37 ship that gets its best gun layout before the hipper is even available (at LVL45)...and your york better have much more soft defense/repair speed too, with its 1 more support slot and better support sailors, unless you've made some creatively horrible decisions about sailors. and, when you're even at equal level with a eugen, it's getting close to blockshot time. i'm pretty sure the playerbase agrees that blockshot yorks are an unbalanced nuisance, hence their bannings.
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