Subs are imbalanced and asw is imbalanced.

When we complained about HH, it was disregarded because I was an SS driver.
Of course, the SS doesn't like HH. But when a battle cruiser gets double-shotted
with a Mandel/Moltke HH explosion and goes down, that's complete nonsense. I've
sank a Ticonderoga (US PCV) with HH broadsides. Pity the poor DD that pulls up
next my CV. I put them down before they get three shots off.

This is what happens when you make a change (Subs need to be nerf'd) and up-
power an ASW weapon...it has consequences for your knee-jerk reaction.

I think NF should make HH, PHH ONLY. Dump the regular HH.

HH need to be reduced to 10% of current surface damage. As for underwater
effect, no change.

HH damage v surface ship = retarded
HH in blitz = retarded
letting a ship with HH into your range = retarded

Anyway SDE dosnt give a shit about balance if they can make money off of it. Buy more
premium hedge hogs.

better solution for blitz play a bigger map like NWO1, Ice age, Dokdo, or open ocean or
are ya to dumb to change the map?

First off I wish to say from first hand experance that he is right. Using prem HH in blitz
is a I win button. I have used the Le Fantasque with full HH and Have one shot prem CA's
and below, even crippled a few BB1's. The anti-sub HedgeHogs NEED to be removed from Blitz
games.

Really That suck so much i loved to do that

I've been playing in blitzs lately with my MN CV1 and my Mandel, and I've seen this player
with PHH running around in his DD. He goes about 57 knots Overheating (46 knots cruising),
and he has 5 PHH Launchers fitted on his ship.

The first game that I noticed him doing this was when I was in my Mandel, fighting an
enemy BB on Hobbit Wars. No ships had hit me with any shells, and all of a sudden I get a
salvo into my belt that cripples me (brings me down to about 4k dp). Then he fired his T
slot PHHs to finish me off. Even with BVE Gunners, my guns couldn't reload fast enough to
switch from firing at the enemy BB to be able to even get one salvo off on this DD, let
alone having a decent enough spread to sink him in one salvo. Btw, this DD player has a
4-silver bar crew on his DD, so yes he isn't getting much exp each game (meaning he can
use PHHs in more blitz games due to not leveling fast) along with the fact that his
gunners are reloading the PHH faster and have somewhat tighter spread.

This needs to be addressed by the GMs and Devs to be taken care of because I can guarantee
that a LOT of newer players are being turned away from the game because of a-holes like
this. Fixing this is as simple as the fix that was made to GBs/GB2s requiring BBs to carry
no guns smaller than 11". Simply code into Blitz rooms that HH launchers cannot be used in
the games. Problem solved.

Also, to add to my post, this player has been named earlier in this thread (not talking
about the post where the name was removed by a mod), and he has blatantly stated in-game
that he doesn't care that he is turning new players away from the game because of his
selfish and unnecessary behavior. Tbh, I really think the Reapers fleet may want to have a
talk with this fleet member and talk some sense into him considering he is wearing their
tag and boasting about his actions...

Ive seen FFYs doin over 60k of attack with only HH. Even if you have BVE Gunners in Blitz
you need 2-3 Full Hits as a CL with 12x6" Shells to stop a FFY, try to hit full hat max
range with an @level CL. Ive although seen small DDs, rushin an a BB and oneshot it, on
closest range. Most BBs have horrible Spread in Blitz, even with BVE Crew, maybe except
the Revenge, but there is the Reload that screws you.
The Abilitiy to blow a single salvo with over 25k attack from a DD is just to much.
So why not forbid the ASW-weapon in Blitz, where subs are forbidden too.

And its true, that it scares off new players.
I brought two friends to NF. The first made it to a Fletcher and stopped there, because of
Kitas and Ships with HH. (Kitas on Hobbit-Map are another chapter)
The other friend made it to Revenge and was sick of being killed first from Bombers, every
game. But thats a chapter of fairness to let new players have some fun too, instead of
bombing them away, because they are an easy kill.

If you have bve gunners and you can aim, you shouldn't have a problem with him.
You should be taking him out at such a range that he can only hit you with 1 or 2
pHH per salvo at best.
If you don't have bve gunners, then you're most likely food for those that do and
can aim a bit. Maybe start a drive against those ppl as well then?

Okay, so let me be more specific then since you claim that someone can not pull 70 knots
and mount enough HH to actually do damage.

As mentioned before, the HH deals at best 900 damage to BC and below class ships. You tell
me to kill them at range before they get close enough to use the HH. When you are at blitz
level, there are not many blocking guns. You also have rediculous spread, and by the time
you get 3 volleys off they are ontop of you anyway doing 70 knots.

Since the forum mods won't let me site the players name who is doing it, i will call him
player X. Player X is using either the Jaguar DD. At least I believe
it is , either that or it is the teshkent, or the lenningrad hard to say for sure i have
to see him again.
Next time i see him in a game i will be more
specific with the ship type.

The ONLY mounts he brins is the HH launcher mounts, and since he has them on both R and T
slots the long reload count doesnt really matter. Not to mention that this player X is
doing 70 knots and can run away and reload anyway, regardless of the range you may or may
not have on him.

Besides, he kills everyone in one Volley, if not he has the T slot to throw a second
volley and finish them off. It is an instant I win button at the speeds his ship is
pulling and the damage being dealt not only by the initial hits, but then the explosions
around the ship for the ones that missed.

Join Blitz games on the Nebraska server.

Also Happymeal, he does not need to be accurate with the sheer volume of HH he launches in
each volley, he will hit with 6 - 10 of those, and then the rest will explode and do
damage again, 6 - 10 x 700-900 = very crippled blitz ship + secondaries, and then T slot
HH if he has to = you die in one pass. Besides at 70 knots he can get into a range where
he doesnt need to be accurate. just volleys and everything hits. Even if he sprays and
prays at max range, 700 - 900 damage a shell is devestating in blitz.