No AA, but full crew

hmm i have 3 +11 BVE and 1 +12 BVE engys all with 160+ vets and full experts and
yet with less than 80 bulge i go 39 knots and with 200 bulge i go 38. im prity sure im
at speed cap and short of defileing crew and useing BB2 guns 42 knots seems
unatainable. i could be mistaken but the vanguards speed is the worst of all BB4.
the spread is frankly a coin flip... either perfect... or a dogs breakfast(all over the
place). another problem is a common missonception. vanguard doesnt have iowa
range. iv tested this many times but have no screen shots(if you have some thated
be nice)matter of fact it is out ranged by the same margin you out range the lowest
BB4 ranger...the l1.... all in all, i love the vanguard. its slim line and its turning force is
still fairly impressive. most of all its tough as nails(completely unarmoured). pre BB34
it was a very fun ship but not a very competitive one. everyone forgets about the DP
and overal damage resistence it gained.

edit: i seem to remember some one saying something about it being able to do 42
knots b4... maybe im wrong there and if so can some one tell me how to get that
kinda speed?

i hate how they nurfed the RN BB V Engine

it used to be 144% OverHeatRatio but now its 120%
and by doing that they made it near-impossible to reach the speed cap with at-level crew

you can atleast say the vanny IS NOT noob-proof like the L1 or L2

but somthing needs to be done to make the spread more consistent, but not blocking, and a
damage increase to.

CUS RN IS SUPOSED TO HAVE TEH HIGHEST DAMAGE/SHELL compared to other nations.
andit sucks

in other words: Nerf KM Buffz UK!!!11one1!

Perhaps a stupid question, but the Vanny guns, are they the RP12L's?

here again I will mention that I think the spread of the vanny is bugged. I have set in
the test mission for minutes at a time firing salvo after salvo without moving. With my
120 gunners the shell can land full ship widths away from where the previous salvo fell.
This combined with -really- weak shell (even compared to H39) makes the vanny a bit weaker
than it should be.

Also, vanny players with crew in the 90-100 range and 5 engies should be able to hit 42.
at the current time, these players are playing at 40 knts. Some adjustments should be
made either to spread or speed to take care of this.

spread is crap compared to what? prepatch vanguard? other bb4?

But the vanny is still not classed as BB4 in my eyes all they did was increase the
range of the RP12 guns.

They took away everything else that the ship was when it was at BB3.5 stage. they
didn't just take away the ships turning force it had they also reduced the guns
turning force.

I'm not saying I can't play this ship as I can and have done for a long time, I haven't
really got the engines to run the L2 at the moment.

I have gunners at level 106 stage and even that high I find the spread crap at
times, but a BB4 ship shouldn't need 120 crew to be used to its full, there should be
a margine at what point the ship can play good at within the levels to the next ship
e.g. at level 89 fair 95 good and 100 onwards plays its best

I dont know how anyone can say the ship plays better now than it did pre patch
they took more away from it?

Heatrr's missing crew, thats y hes going 44 with his L1, hes lacking reps. Fasts a L1 can
go with full crew is 42 now which is decent.

The vanny goes 40 with nelly guns. Its decent as a bb4, but ppl on NY wont use it as its a
ship which requires more skill to use then a L1 in a GB setting. Makes sense also because
not alot of ppl on NY can use a Vanny (or a L1 to that fact) to its full potential in a gb
room or a bb room

Just put the hood guns on. You go 42 and the guns basically blockshot.

@Heatr: How the heck do you get your lion to go 44 with fat crew? Mine won't go
past 42 unless I drop 3 sailors and strip everything I can miss off it...
Unless of course those engies you mention are all the crew you run :P

@OP: I like the Vanny the way it is now and needing 3 or 4 engies is not exactly
asking for miracles.. All BB4 require some decent engies to run capped.