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    04. 17. 2011 01:35

Baker654
I suggest some new tier submarines for submarine players so they can keep playing
submarines for longer. And I don't want any BB and/or CV whiners as I am a BB/CV player
and I am actually support for more submarines

Tier 5:
US: Narwhal

DP: 21000
Armament: 4 Forward Torpedo tubes, 2 aft Torpedo Tubes, One 6" gun (Note the Real Narwhal
and her sister Nautilus had 2 6" guns)

UK: Triton Class

DP: 19600
Armament: 4 forward Torpedo Tubes (Note in Real Life the T class had 10 tubes that 8 faced
forwards) 2 aft torpedo tubes, One 4"gun

KM: Type IX C

DP: 20200
Armament: 4 forward torpedo tubes, 2 aft torpedo tubes, one 4.1" gun

MN: L'Aurore

DP: 20400
Armament: 4 forward torpedo tube, 2 aft torpedo tubes, one 4" gun

SN: Project 97 (improved S class)

DP: 20000
Armament: 4 forward torpedo tube, 2 aft torpedo tubes, one 4" gun
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Tier 6
US: Gato Class (Actually the picture is Tench Class)

DP: 23800
Armament: 6 forward torpedos, 4 aft torpedos, 1 5"gun

UK: Amphion class

DP: 21500
Armament: 6 forward torpedos, 4 aft torpedos, 1 4" gun

KM: Type XXI

DP: 22400
Armament: 6 forward torpedos, 4 aft torpedos (note the Real type XXI had less torpedo
tubes and no guns), 1 4" gun

MN: Surcouf

DP: 23000
Armament: 8 forward torpedos, 4 aft torpedos (I dont really know who the Surcouf's tubes
were laid out), 2 8" guns (to maintain balance the Surcouf guns will not get damage bonus)

SN: K class

DP: 22400
Armament: 6 forward torpedo tubes, 2 aft tubes, 2 4" guns

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Now for the Japanese Submarines. Instead of a tier 6 submarine, there will be two tier 5
submarine branches that serve as the tier 6. Japanese submarine players can chose either

I-201 "Sen Taka" class


DP: 22800
Armament: Note the Real life Sentaka class had only 4 forward torpedo tubes but we can
change it

or

I-400 "Sen Toku" class


DP: 23600
Armament: 8 forward torpedo tubes, 1 5.51" gun
Airspace/(Flight Deck): 1250/ (3)
Note the 1-400 can only use Recons and the M6A torpedo bomber
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  • Re : New Submarines

    04. 26. 2011 03:18

Baker654
How many US players who went down the submarine line hoping they will end up with the Gato
but were hugely disappointed when they got the Cachalot. If tier 5 and 6 sub are
introduced then American submarine commanders will finally get the ship they wanted

  • Re : New Submarines

    04. 25. 2011 19:41

titansriff
it would be great to have more displacment on subs and maybe make them a bit faster so
many times have i been close to a kill but a bb has sunk it or the target has gotten right
out of range because of speed

  • Re : New Submarines

    04. 25. 2011 19:28

Baker654
I've done a bit of research that the Japanese were planning to build a class of submarine
called the type E which was meant to be the replacement for the type C but no further
information was discovered. I prefer that the Japanese get to chose a branch between the
Type 201 and the Type 400. can you show me the type 201 sprite

  • Re : New Submarines

    04. 25. 2011 15:27

silentsubusa
Now, for those who are actually contributing something constructive to this
discussion, Here is my planned ships for SS5 and SS6.

NOTE: SS5 would be about level 97 and SS6 would be about level 120.

US ships:
SS5: Narwal class- have not done any research on this sub yet.
SS6: Gato class-am ready to start sprite work, but have not yet.

UK ships:
SS5: Amphion class (switch with M1/M2?)
SS6: M1 (had 12" single) - REMOD M2 (carried seaplane) (switch with amphion?)

IJN ships:
SS5: I-200 Sentaka - sprite done.
SS6: 1-400 Sentoku - carries 3 scout/TB.

KM ships:
SS5: IXD (or IXC?)
SS6: XXI - Elektroboot

MN ships:
SS5: surcouf (leaked)
SS6: Minerve (leaked

SN ships:
SS5: L class (heavily leaked)
SS6: K class (heavily leaked)

MN AND SN SUBS ARE SET IN STONE ALREADY BY SDE. imho. I dont plan to do SN or
MN sprites because real ones are about to come out.

  • Re : New Submarines

    04. 25. 2011 15:00

silentsubusa
Those of you who think subs are overpowered consider this:

in most battles:
About 1/2 of the subs are sniped and killed fighting each other.

The last 1/2th go on to spray torps and kill one or two BB then they run out of air
and get oneshotted by a BB1.

Results may vary, but not by much. The fact remains, in most battles only about 1/2
of the subs actually make it to the other side.

So, Battleship players should not be complaining. Actually, you have it very nice. In
reality battleships would only hit say 1 out of every 50 shells fired, even if they aimed
perfectly.

As for the reload issue, spraying torps, reloading in 30 seconds, and spraying again,
That desperately needs to be nerfed. I propose quadruple the reload time for them,
creating a proper porportion to BB reload time. Also, subs should get double air.

  • Re : New Submarines

    04. 25. 2011 05:11

ozzy0
@ m16champ so a lvl77 ss shud not get hh and die by a lvl 12 dd
its the same problem

i know alot of bb don't use bulge so if u don't use it u die true torps
be it of ss or kita and even torpplain

i play subs and all big bb can out run a ss4
but not all ss4 can kill bb's
if u know what u are doing u know what bb have bulge and whith have hh
the same conts for the big cv
and u will know what bb/cv will be weak or have no battle field awairnes

  • Re : New Submarines

    04. 25. 2011 00:22

Baker654
How about increase the minimun submarine torpedo range to a range where you can just see
the torpedo spread in time and be able to doge at least one of the torps. As a result
submarine players have to stand off and actually try to aim their torpedos with
deliberately aim spreads.

  • Re : New Submarines

    04. 24. 2011 12:51

mysharona
^boo fu**ing hoo

  • Re : New Submarines

    04. 24. 2011 03:39

M16champ
Yeh im a battleship whiner because i shouldnt have to grind to lvl 120 just to get raped
by some halfwit in a ss4. The balance for those subs in completely unfair atm. They need
to have less air/ longer recharge time so that they can't pop up throw a smoke bomb get
air and chill under for enough to kill any bb.

  • Re : New Submarines

    04. 24. 2011 01:38

Baker654
thank you for your supporting views
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