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    11. 19. 2006 20:23

Rengokuy
Please Restickey!

Granted by Angus725 *dated March 24th, 2011*

---------------------------I was right-------------------------

Trees (to large to post, copy paste into your browser)
*ignore French and Italian DD lines, they are being changed
France - http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i211/Rengokuy/FrenchTree.jpg
Italy - http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i211/Rengokuy/ItalyTree.jpg
Russia - http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i211/Rengokuy/RussiaTree.jpg

*Updating ships to match the trees
Edit - Richelieu remodel to Jean Bart, not Gascagone
Edit - Bearn remodel to Joffre (as they have same capacity, one just trades
armor/armament
for speed)

-for people who want to know the capabilities of the guns, nearly all are found on
this website http://www.navweaps.com/


(boring intro section, scroll past to get to the ships and pretty pictures)
Short and Sweet, the French and Italians had good strong navies during WWII.
Both would be workable into the current game, ideally as their own nation, using
their own crews.

The French Navy would be a speedy one at that. Range would be rather long,
either equal to or a bit farther than most german guns at level. French DD's will be
some of the best in game, each with high damaging, fast firing guns. CL's and CA's
would be fast hard hitters that don't present much of a target, but they will be very
vulnrable to shell fire as they didn't mount much armor, a problem remidied in the
BB's. The French carriers would all be rather slow, their aircraft typical until higher
levels. BB's would all be above average, with long firing guns. (don't let the PBB
Dunkerque fool you, they had much better range than that)
Richelieu's guns had a longer range than the Iowa's.
All battleships would be capable of defending themselves from aircraft as well.

As for the Italian Navy, it would be a nation of Cruisers and AA guns. Heavy and Light
Cruisers would be the strongest of any nation in the game. DD's would be a trick to
use. All would have few mounts (usually only 2 or 3) but remain the same size as
other nations DD's. BB's would be typical until higher levels when they improve
drastically. Italian Carriers would be tend to have a little less plane space than their
counterparts, but be able to equip much heavier armament. Italian guns in general
had very long ranges, even over german guns. This was achieved at the grave price
of short barrel lives. The FCS system was very effective, tight salvos are to be
expected. Armor would be rated in giving about 20% stronger than the USN armor.

The Russian navy. Well, they will be very interesting indeed. Right from the beginning
they get very fast destroyers with considerably heavy armament. Russian cruisers
will be a bit more difficult to use. Their armament usually lighter than ships of the
same weight, their only advantages being tight salvos and small profiles. The
Russian battleships will be, for lack of better words, terrors to fight. The early on
ones based of the Gangut class, they are small targets with a lot of guns, the only
disadvantage being lack of AA defense, a problem remedied at the BB4 and 5 level,
the ships here built in practice with current US ones (iowa and montana). Even their
aircraft carriers are well armed, each making good speed and decent capacity. As for
their aircrafts, figters will be good, but bombs and torpedoes relativily weak.
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  • Re : New Nations French/Italian/Russian

    12. 26. 2008 07:20

Larcer
before nf even comes out with new nations, they should figure out how to allow
people to have more sailors, without more sailors, new nations would be useless,
because people dont have room for them

  • Re : New Nations French/Italian/Russian

    12. 26. 2008 04:15

HM3duke
Have you talked to Jane's yet? or tryed the Imperial War College or the
US Naval War College their great assets

  • Re : New Nations French/Italian/Russian

    12. 25. 2008 22:48

Mastacheif11
NICE! should be implemented immediatly. The Russian PCA "Novgorod" also had a
brother ship named "Vice admiral Popov" ( which i think is a nicer sounding name, or
simply Admiral Popov). You did alot of reaserch, and deserve NFers respect.

  • Re : New Nations French/Italian/Russian

    12. 25. 2008 09:25

MB_Ricardo
:) Up

Is a good discusion...

  • Re : New Nations French/Italian/Russian

    12. 17. 2008 06:46

MrKikker
recommended for sure!

cant wait..

how about introducing the dutch as a nation harharharhar

  • Re : New Nations French/Italian/Russian

    12. 17. 2008 06:19

Beastro
"To even to try to make ANY French (and especially Italian) BB any where near the
current Naval BB lineups WOULD BE STUPID. The French ships would simply be
blown way out of their realistic (and actual) proportions."

Care to elaborate?

The Vittorio Venetos and the Richelieus were some of the best BBs of the war, well suited
for their combat enviroments.

They weren't the best designs of the time, but they outclassed alot of contemporaries,
Bismarck being the best example.

  • Re : New Nations French/Italian/Russian

    12. 04. 2008 15:50

fromage












>>>> lolz

  • Re : New Nations French/Italian/Russian

    12. 04. 2008 12:45

Stargundam
hmmmm...... that shoud be nice withe 3 more nations

  • Re : New Nations French/Italian/Russian

    11. 18. 2008 05:19

Theo57
There are too many replies that I can't sure if someone mention about these.....

Gascogne is also a good choice for French, the forth unit of Richilieu class. It has
different main gun set.

http://base13.glasnet.ru/text/rich/2-8.gif

And I think Roma could be a new class in game because it did some upgrade from
original Vittorio Veneto series.

  • Re : New Nations French/Italian/Russian

    11. 17. 2008 15:27

fromage
Well I hate to tell you this (above) but you're arguing with AT LEAST 373 people m8.
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