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    03. 11. 2010 03:43

Dkingz
Hello Everyone,

Here's a little guide I put up for all those future MN CV players out there and those who
are already on their way. Hope This Helps. I know its long but it's worth it.

-Dkingz

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Edited March 11, 2010:
*[richardphat] - Classing Sailors - Addition
*[Happymeal2] - FP Comparison of Nations - Correction
* Added - Boosts/Vets/Experts
Edited September 4, 2010:
*[hachioji] - Being a TB/DB Whore... - Correction/Addition
*[V2CxBongRipz] - T3 FP Stat - Correction
Edited December 29, 2010:
*Added and Revised a Few Things
Edited December 30, 2010:
*[Rizzo2010] - Changed Joffre Sailors Capacity
*[PlanZ] - Changed PCV lvl.
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>>THINGS TO KNOW ABOUT MN PLANES:

Fighter Pilots: US > KM > IJN > UK > MN
Dive Bombers: MN > IJN > KM > US > UK
Torp. Bombers: MN > UK > US > IJN > KM

Advantages:
MN Dive Bombers and Torp. Bombers have the highest fuel capacity and the highest
bomb damage and torpedo damage compared to any other nation.

Disadvantages:
MN fighters have the lowest fuel capacity, lowest max speed and a semi-good
offensive power/dp, but considering all the factors MN fighters are the worst, your are
out-fueled and out-gunned, so here's the break down:

Stats For T3 Fighter Planes Comparing All Nations:
-Fighter Max Speed: IJN > US > KM > UK > MN
-Fighter Fuel Capacity: IJN > US > KM > UK > MN
-Fighter Offensive Power: KM > MN > IJN = US = UK
-Fighter DP: UK > IJN = US > KM > MN

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>>THINGS TO KNOW ABOUT MN CARRIER SHIPS:

Before you get to your first MN Carrier, you will be going through 6 different ships:

1. Jaguar (DD) lvl. 12
2. L'Aroit (DD) lvl. 17 <[or]> Le Fantasque (DD) lvl. 18
3. Mogador (DD) lvl. 24
4. Pluton (CL) lvl. 28
5. Emile Bertin (CL) lvl. 36
6. La Galissonniere (CL) lvl. 42

The MN Carrier Ships Are:

(CV1) Dixmude lvl. 50 ----------------------------- [1,764,000 Credits]
(CV2) Bearn lvl. 62 -------------------------------- [3,118,925 Credits]
(CV4) Joffre lvl. 79 --------------------------------- [4,797,625 Credits]
(CV5) Arromanches lvl. 97 ----------------------- [6,788,125 Credits]
(PCV) Daladier lvl. 100 --------------------------- [NF Store: $6.99]
(CV6) Liberte lvl.120 ------------------------------ [50,000,000 Credits+20,000,000, Points]

(CV1) Dixmude -------------------------------------- [1 BO, 2 Arm, 5 Support]
(CV2) Bearn ----------------------------------------- [1 BO, 2 Arm, 6 Support]
(CV3) Joffre ------------------------------------------ [1 BO, 2 Arm, 7 Support]
(CV5) Arromanches -------------------------------- [1 BO, 2 Arm, 8 Support]
(PCV) Daladier -------------------------------------- [1 BO, 2 Arm, 9 Support]
(CV6) Liberte ---------------------------------------- [1 BO, 2 Arm, 9 Support]

Advantages:
The main advantages of MN Carrier ships are the fact that they are relatively very
small compared to its other counterparts, and each carrier has the ability to load Guns,
AA or HH. The MN PCV is the only non-CV6 to be able to launch 12 planes at once.

Descriptions of MN Carriers:

-(CV1) Dixmude lvl. 50 [aka. The Cute Grey One}
This ship is relatively small and cute, but it packs more punch than any of the starter
carriers you can get at lvl. 50 [of course excluding the IJN CL Oyodo and the IJN CA
Mogami(1944)]. With 3 armaments to load and a little bit more space than the IJN Hosho and
US Bogue, it's a bombshell.

-(CV2) Bearn lvl. 62 [aka. The Golden Sub Killer]
With 14 armaments to load on this carrier, 7 on each side, this is a monster. Of course
this is more of a personal preference, but if you load all the armaments with HH, no sub
can touch you. But I've also tried using AA on the bigger armaments and HH on the smaller
ones and just put different ammo's on A/B respectively, and it works fine (just note that
switching between the two you have to account for reloading especially with the HH).
Whatever the case, there are a lot of arrangements for this sub killing cv.

-(CV4) Joffre lvl 79 [aka. Worth the Grind]
Being able to only launch 7 planes at once with the Bearn, and now 9 with this ship, this
is definitely worth grinding for. With more plane space for a wide range of arrangements
from attack cv to a fp-whore cv, it all works for this carrier. For those of you who are
sub killing fans, even though there are only 4 armaments, your gunners at this time should
be reloading those HH pretty quickly enough to still be a force to reckon with against
subs. Then again you can always go for the 3" duals (lvl20's) for some long range AA. Or
just use plain guns to the job. Sleek and thin this ship is the ultimate db dodger if
there's such a thing.

-(CV5) Arromanches lvl 97 [aka. The Small Of Them All]
The size of this ship is truly amazing, its so small compared to all of the other nations
CV5's, I'm still amazed by the number of question I get asking if this ship is really a
CV5. Enough speed and turning force to dodge most db's attack. The set-up for the
gun slots are awkward enough to shun most people from using AA. This ship built to be a
support ship, staying way back behind the lines. Of Course its totally up to you how you
want to use this, whether you go all out complete dive bombers on this or have a bit of
both fps and dbs/tbs, it'll be a blast. I find that to make a most of the gun slots, I put
HH on the 2 slot side and Guns on the other side.

-(PCV) Daladier lvl 100 [aka. Cant Believe This Isnt A CV6]
First thing I must point out is this is the only Non-CV6 Carrier that can launch 12 planes
at once, all the other PCV's from all the other nations can only launch 11. But then on
another note this ship is a copy cat of the KM PCV Hindenburg with only a slight
golden/brown color. But unlike its KM sister this ship is more durable and stunning. Its a
good ship. Definitely worth my 7 bucks.

-(CV6) Liberte lvl 120 [aka. Looks Better Then The MN BB6]
It has 12 gun slots each with 104 space enough to carry 6.1D Trips, I gotta say compared
to the De Grasse it looks better, and its more durable. Of course the Midway still has the
most gun slots of 18. I can't really say much about this ship, I like the way it looks but
other carriers do find it disturbing enough to constantly just spam Fighters over the
carrier fearing and waiting for the DB's. I have yet to find a perfect niche for this
carrier. For now this carrier is only better than the PCV Daladier in looks, plane space,
and guns. But hey this is still AWESOME. Uber-Pwnage.

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THINGS TO KNOW AS YOU GO ON YOUR WAY FOR YOUR MN CV:

[WHAT SAILORS DO YOU NEED FOR CV]
- For your first MN Carrier the Dixmude, there will be 5 Support Slots, 2 Armament Slots
and 1 BO Slot. Obviously there is no way you can fit all the sailors you need to for a CV5
which can take up to 8 pilots, but for now you will have to decide which one you will want
to train first. You can always either train the rest later or buy anything else you need.

>What you will need by your first carrier:
-Bridge Operator (BO) [REQUIRED]
-7 Sailors Total [Choose Your Configuration]

>Sailors You Can Choose [Substitute the Slots for Sailors of Your Choice]:
-Pilots (FP/TB/DB)--------------------------------- [Recommended]
-Gunner (x2)------------------------------------------ [Optional]
-Seaman (Increases Ability of All Sailors)-------- [Optional]
-Support (REP/ENG/REST)------------------------ [Optional]

*My configuration was 1 BO, 4 Fps, 1 Eng, 2 Gunners for my first CV for a total of 1 BO
and 7 Sailors, luckily for me as I reached the CV2 Bearn I was able to buy 2 Dbs. Choose
your sailors you want to add wisely.*

[CHOOSING PILOT RATIO'S]
- There are many different ways to choose the ratio of how many fighter pilots or tb/db
pilots you want to have in your carrier. Keep in mind that the max the highest level
carrier can have is a total of 8 pilots. Here are the types of CV players in Navyfield:

-0 fps, 8 tbs/dbs <--------- TB/DB Whore CV Player [Rarely Used (But who cares?)]
-1 fps, 7 tbs/dbs ***[Not Recommended for Use]***
-2 fps, 6 tbs/dbs <-----
-3 fps, 5 tbs/dbs <------}
-4 fps, 4 tbs/dbs <--------}- Balanced CVPlayer [Likely Used In Blitz/GB/GB2]
-5 fps, 3 tbs/dbs <------}
-6 fps, 2 tbs/dbs <-----
-7 fps, 1 tbs/dbs ***[Not Recommended for Use]***
-8 fps, 0 tbs/dbs <-------- FP Whore CV Player [Likely Used In Harbor Assaults]

[BEING A TB/DB WHORE CV PLAYER]
- Using this ratio of all db or tb is rarely ever used since the probability that other CV
players will easily kill your planes with their own fighter pilots is extremely high.
Probability of winning is extremely low. Yet this hasn't stop players from doing so. {Note
to Players: Probability of winning depends player to player, but for people new to CV'ing
having a balanced CV is best, then they can experiment as they please. I would know
personally since I am a DBW type of CV player, enemy's fps cant take over all the air
space so there's always a blind spot and I do pretty well.}

[BEING A BALANCED CV PLAYER]
- Any where from using a ratio of 2fps, 6 tbs/dbs to 6fps, 2fp/tbs is what I consider to
be a balanced player, of course 4fps, 4tbs/dbs are a much more balanced CV player but
either way it is still possible for the CV player within this ratio to balance teamwork
and one's self. Most CV player fall along these lines and have a high chance of winning,
now just depending on the players skill and balance.

[BEING A FP WHORE CV PLAYER]
- You will likely see high lvl-players using this ratio of all fighter pilots, and since
players are more focused on just scouting and shooting enemy planes, most of these players
have a high chance of winning. But a CV player can never take over the whole air space,
there will always be gaps. Only problem with this is by using this ratio is you can also
get stuck and pinned if the enemy fps are better than yours.

[BUYING A CARRIER]
- Carriers of all nations come at a hefty price tag, starting at 1.8m credits for the
first MN Carrier and then growing by twice or by a million for the next ship. You should
start SAVING UP EARLY.

[CLASSING SAILORS]
- Most people may already know this but for those of you who don't, as you start leveling
your sailors make sure to class them the moment they are able to, don't wait or hold off
on classing them [take for example leaving them to be special forces for more exp gain
than classing them into scouts when they reach the level to be classed as scouts] Also
known as Power Leveling. As you reach higher levels, the points that your sailors
accumulate over leveling from the added stats gained from being classed will count much
more than just what planes they fly and nation.

- For example, we have two carriers (one KM and the other MN), now lets assume each
carrier has the same lvl pilots, same amount of vets/experts and both have been boosted.
The only difference is the KM Fighter Pilots have been Power Leveled and the MN Fighter
Pilots have been classed respectively at the right times. A fight between the two carriers
using T3 fighter planes [taking in account that KM fighter planes are much better than MN
fighter planes] the MN Carrier Fighter Planes will surely win. Even tough the MN FPs have
lower stats than the KM Fighter Pilot, the points accumulated from being classed as soon
as possible is greater than the power leveled points of the KM Fighter Pilot classed much
later. Thus CLASS YOUR SAILORS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

[BOOST/VETS/EXPERTS ON SAILORS]
- Also known as B/V/E [or bve for short], these are things bought from the NF store which
you can be add to your sailors in this case Fighter Pilots, Dive Bomber Pilots or Torpedo
Bomber Pilots to help increase their stats and points ability. [Note this can be added to
any type of Sailor regardless of what class] Since Most CV player invest heavily on making
sure their pilots are boosted and vetted/experted since these significantly do help with
survivability for tb's and db's planes and how well the fps fight. As you start to reach
higher levels you should consider b/v/e your sailors, better yet do it early as you can.

-Boosts [$2.49 for 1] - Also know in the NF Store as Premium Sailors, added on only one
sailor one time to increase the abilility of a sailor by 20%, increasing a sailors Stat
and Points by 20%.

-Experts [$2 for +100 x2 or +10 x2] - Bought in packs of two, these are added to your
sailors and converts 100 or 10 rookie sailors in your Sailor to Experts which greatly
increases the ability of your points not the points itself.

-Vets [$2 for +10 x2 or +1 x2] - Also bought in packs of two, these are added to your
sailors and converts 10 or 1 expert sailors in your Sailor to Veterans which greatly
increases the ability of your points more so than experts.

[AA GUNNERS FOR MN]
- As most people already know, if you don't then listen up, to use MN AA guns your
sailors must remain gunners, DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE CLASS THEM AS MACH GUNNERS, for
they will be useless and take up your valuable sailor space, just leave them and class
them as if your using them as gunners and they will work perfectly fine using AA Guns.

[BEING A PRO CV PLAYER]
- A Pro CV player knows how to be a team player, Carriers play important roles in the
battlefield, they scout for their fellow Battleships and keep enemy Battleships blind by
killing enemy scouts. So plan accordingly in how many db/tb/fp pilots you want to use on
your carrier, because in the end its not how many ships you killed by using your db's or
tb's, what matters the most is if your team is winning or losing because of you.
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  • Re : MN CV Guide

    03. 15. 2010 09:39

Dkingz
Well roarp,

Its a good thing that almost half of all the cv players in are either too concentrated
with their own fp-ing or are just complete noobs. [sure I've heard people blame it on lag,
but really? if you lag there's no way you can play cv (idk just my opinion)] Now I'd say a
good some of players when they start rolling out db's there goes all their attention. But
Most cv players already know that its easier to hit a target coming from the back when
dbing and for tbing hit at the sides. So all you have to do is pay attention to the
airspace around your ship.

All in all it all comes down to three things, your ship, your skillz, and the person on
the other end trying to kill you. Good thing for MN ships they're rather small with the
exception of the cl's and ca's, the Dixmude for example is extremely small, so just by
moving side to side you'd be surprise to how many dbs/tbs you can dodge. Of course there
are always cases when they get lucky and actually nail you, but those are rare. Skillz can
only come from experience and the chances of getting a high-end cv player, is relatively
small. So hold out, its definitely worth the wait. It will only get better trust me.

Its always good to have bulge and deck on a cv, but just remember its also lowers your
overheat and speed, thus slower to turn. I'd say its best to have only bulge and few belt
[just enough to not get damaged from torps] then have no deck, invest in an eng. and
you'll be set.

  • Re : MN CV Guide

    03. 14. 2010 23:15

roarp
I like this guide, everyone who wants to be a MN CV driver must read this!!!

I am grinding my way through towards the CV, I am at lv 41 and being a casual player (and
the internet is capped at 56k recently) i guess I will take more than a week before i can
get anywhere near the CV. What I hate most now is that the CL for MN IS TERRIBLE. I
can't dodge any Dive bombers nor torp bombers on my CL simply because the turning rate for
my CL is too slow. I just want to ask, is this is also the case for MN CV, with
incredible turning force of less than 30? So will I be able to dodge the bombers (well of
course if enemy CV outskilled me there is nothing I can do) or I will have to tank the
shells with decks and bulges on CV -- incase if their bombers go through my line of fighters?

  • Re : MN CV Guide

    03. 14. 2010 17:18

juandelacruz
Nice post dkingz!

For the sake of cv drivers in all servers and fyi for bb drivers. The all bomber cv is an
asset to the team (gb2 rooms) but there are conditions for this to be valid. Only bring a
cv3 if you want to carry all bombers. Do this if you have mastered the art of bombing and
evading fighter planes. cjgod, dkingz, knighthawknnf, eumenides and cracko have mastered
this art.

If you are still learning how to be an attack cv please use a cv1 or cv2 so the team won't
be handicapped.

A combination of a very good support cv5 (all fighters) and an attack cv3 (bombers) is
deadly. With the explosive power of the aerial torps of the French, you could just imagine
what compassghost can do to a bb5 or bb6.

Nice name for the 'bearn" dkingz, you gave the nickname of 'golden sub killer'.
A bearn cv driver sunk 4 subs in one game. In another game he sunk 2 kitakami and 1 sub at
the start of the game.

As to the French fighters:
I took a spin and tried them. Yep the fuel capacity is less than the other nations but you
can still perform with them. I am not referring to the play style that some would want (
who has the best fighters and we meet and slug it out). The French just came out and they
are way too far down (level wise) to the other nations. But........ they have the
potential at higher levels albeit fuel capacity.

Aside from having sturdy ships, they told me that you can use other nations support crew
on French ships. Great!

bien fait dkinz!




addendum:
SDE really gave more xp now for hunting subs, 28,540 for sinking a 4gold ss4.

  • Re : MN CV Guide

    03. 14. 2010 11:55

TX_Longhorn
nice guide acept the fter thing is alll wrong you put
Fighter Pilots: US > KM > IJN > UK > MN
that is definatly wrong it realy is
UK > KM > US > IJN > MN
ok this is how if you take a elite fp and level and class him up to lev 100 the uk one will
always win then if the km is 2nd best followed by usn ijn then mn i am 100% sure usn
dose not have the best fters

  • Re : MN CV Guide

    03. 13. 2010 02:08

Ostallen
All CV drivers should read this guide at least once.

  • Re : MN CV Guide

    03. 11. 2010 18:42

Dkingz
Happymeal2,

Just a quick note there I'm pretty sure the Fuel Capacity are:

These are for T3 Planes: IJN > US > KM > UK > MN

IJN: 144
US: 139
KM: 136
UK: 134
MN: 99

You must have gotten it mixed up with the Local Fighters, please check again and just
correct me if I'm wrong, I got it from the website too.

-Dkingz

  • Re : MN CV Guide

    03. 11. 2010 15:48

Happymeal2
love the guide and i dont even play french :)

only 2 things:
Fighter pilots: KM > US > IJN > UK > MN

Should be: US>KM>IJN>UK>MN

take a US elite pilot, boost him and get him to 75. Do the same with a KM one. You'll
see what im talking about, USN t3 pilot boosted = +40 fighter ability <.<

alright, heres the fuel capacitys.

MN:46
US:46
UK:45
IJN:47
KM:45

so, fuel capacity is: IJN>MN=US>UK=KM

now, DP which isnt in your guide:
USN:204
UK:171
IJN:204
KM:176
MN:173

USN=IJN>KM>MN>UK


might wanna edit these in :p
these stats were taken from NF site itself...

  • Re : MN CV Guide

    03. 11. 2010 15:00

richardphat
If you work on this part, I will consider this guide well done .
Be more specific.



***[CLASSING SAILORS]
- Most people may already know this but for those of you who don't, as you start lvling
your sailors for your carrier make sure to class them the moment the are able to [don't
wait or hold off on classing them, there are only special cases when you do, like the IJN
DP Gunners, but for everything else CLASS THEM RIGHT AWAY] because as you reach the
highest lvl's the stats and points that your sailors accumulate over lvl'in will
count much more than what nation they are flying in.***

  • Re : MN CV Guide

    03. 11. 2010 10:37

SiriusA
Kudos on the guide :) Though you probably should have mentioned the Restore
bonus for French Sailors,allowing you to take a bigger hit and keep on trucking,if you
even managed to get hit in the first place *Cough* Uber-DODGE rate *Cough*

And MN FW setup at this point in time is pointless,for the reasons that their fighter
planes suck in general.

  • Re : MN CV Guide

    03. 11. 2010 10:19

Falkon71
Nice work on this.

Being a US CV driver, I would say a Seaman/Medic is a more important combination
than a Seaman/Rep-Eng-Rest. Other than that, great info regarding the ships and
their potential.

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