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  • Im just wondering something about the new h44 guns?

    09. 24. 2012 16:50


IcedBroom_

Im just wondering can the H44 guns not be bounce off anymore snice there 20" guns. I've heard that guns that are 18" and up cannot be bounce. But thats what I've heard im just wondering if this is true or not.

 

  • Re : Im just wondering something about the new h44 guns?

    09. 24. 2012 18:22


Sonlirain

That's because IJN uses 18.9" (Lvl 100 BB5 guns) and 20.1" (lvl 110) and 20.5" (BB6).

They all have pretty heavy shells and a very high maximum angle that gives them enough power to punch through L2 and QV armor.


H44 is a different story because its guns have a lower maximum angle (second lowest actually) causing the shells to skip off the deck armor.

  • Re : Im just wondering something about the new h44 guns?

    09. 25. 2012 00:44


NIborGER
The size never tells what shells can penetrate. In fact the bigger they are the more weight they need to penetrate the same armor as small shells need. E.g. 20"kaiser bounces below 7", alsace and charlemange hace bad AP too and are19". On the other had prepatch up41 could penetrate QVs fully AWed with 16" at 30 degrees.... In numbers for h44 the new AP ability is 9.5-9.7 inch UK deck. So only 2gun l1+2 and QVs can bounce it... Though the 37knot QV setups get peirced so only for the 35 knot ones u have to load AP

  • Re : Im just wondering something about the new h44 guns?

    09. 25. 2012 21:58


Sumi808

Ive been using my H44 with the 16" L for ages

Recently, with the patch I think NF autochanged my Guns to the 20" . I know this has happened to many other players

 

How do KM players feel about the 20" vs 16" L ??

  • Re : Im just wondering something about the new h44 guns?

    09. 26. 2012 00:06


phantom3553

Originally Posted by Sumi808

Ive been using my H44 with the 16" L for ages

Recently, with the patch I think NF autochanged my Guns to the 20" . I know this has happened to many other players

 

How do KM players feel about the 20" vs 16" L ??

H44 was using 16.5" and no L or D or N on lvl 100 and the problem with this 16.5" was its consistency and easily being bounce by armor whoring ship...

the 20" replaces the lvl 100 16.5" to fix its consistency and its armor penetration with AP... and have a little accuracy buff

  • Re : Im just wondering something about the new h44 guns?

    09. 26. 2012 03:00


Sumi808

do the 20s have the same range as the 16.5 ?

What changes are coming about as the H44 is being redone atm

  • Re : Im just wondering something about the new h44 guns?

    09. 26. 2012 04:38


Sonlirain

Originally Posted by Sumi808

do the 20s have the same range as the 16.5 ?

What changes are coming about as the H44 is being redone atm



Well the guns were fixed and i assume it's the end of the H44 balancing for now.
The 20s should have the exact same range but they might have a bit less due to the spread buff (less range jumps). 

  • Re : Im just wondering something about the new h44 guns?

    09. 26. 2012 20:24


V2CxBongRipz

Range is slightly less but its enough to matter.

  • Re : Im just wondering something about the new h44 guns?

    09. 27. 2012 04:32


Sumi808

this is helpful information - thanks guys.

 

So how do the level 100 20" compare against the level 110 18"  ??

  • Re : Im just wondering something about the new h44 guns?

    09. 27. 2012 09:50


richardphat

L1 still bounce it, because I decided it.

  • Re : Im just wondering something about the new h44 guns?

    09. 27. 2012 11:25


Sonlirain

Originally Posted by Sumi808

this is helpful information - thanks guys.

 

So how do the level 100 20" compare against the level 110 18"  ??



The lvl 110 18" have montana range and none of the firepower.
Do NOT use them.

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