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  • North Carolina vs. South Dakota

    07. 21. 2013 00:41


Avor2121

I got a ship tree reset from an event two years ago and I'm tempted to use it to get the North Carolina. Some insight on borth these ships helpfull, and if there is a better use I don;t know about for this item.

 

  • Re : North Carolina vs. South Dakota

    07. 21. 2013 10:56


Benser33

What I know roughly is that the NoCar has the better guns; longer range, higher damage, slightly better reload, but they're 45 degrees so the hang time is longer making them a little harder to hit with, but providing better AP. If angle doesn't matter to you, they're definitely the better guns. Personally I consider it another plus that the following Iowa and Monty both also use 45 degree guns, so it helps you acclimate to using the angle. The Nocar can use the Sodak guns if you wish, the reverse is not true. The Nocar is fairly average in speed, largish for a BB3 and slightly better DP.

 

The Sodak is very close in range and damage, but not as much as the Nocar. However, it's 40 degree guns are slight more manageable. Both the Nocar and Sodak suffer terrible spread, even with the best gunners, so the lower angle can be helpful. The Sodak makes up for its slight armament disadvantage with greater speed, marginally better APHC, smaller size and high AAW. The 8 T slots makes for pretty unimpressive AA cover, compared to the 10 slots of the Nocar which is just about enough to justify using AA imo if you have such gunners.

 

I'm sure if any of this is inaccurate someone will correct me, but I hope any of this helps.

  • Re : North Carolina vs. South Dakota

    07. 21. 2013 13:51


SecretSquirl

You should check this out. Alot of good answers and info

 

http://fm.en.kupaisky.com/Community/Forum/View.aspx?num=733&searchtype=0&pagecount=0&searchvalue=carolina&sort=5&category=A01&page1=1

  • Re : North Carolina vs. South Dakota

    07. 22. 2013 00:09


Avor2121

Thank you for the help

  • Re : North Carolina vs. South Dakota

    07. 22. 2013 07:15


megabstr

Originally Posted by Benser33

What I know roughly is that the NoCar has the better guns; longer range, higher damage, slightly better reload....

 

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NorCar gun reloads slower than Iowa (BB4) guns....

 

 

 

 

  • Re : North Carolina vs. South Dakota

    07. 22. 2013 07:38


Benser33

Originally Posted by megabstr
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NorCar gun reloads slower than Iowa (BB4) guns....

I think you mean slower than the Sodak guns. But yeah you're right, I forgot the NoCar reloads slower than the Sodak, although is better in every other way except angle.

  • Re : North Carolina vs. South Dakota

    07. 22. 2013 13:41


axyarthur

Originally Posted by Benser33

Originally Posted by megabstr
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NorCar gun reloads slower than Iowa (BB4) guns....

I think you mean slower than the Sodak guns. But yeah you're right, I forgot the NoCar reloads slower than the Sodak, although is better in every other way except angle.

Actually, Norcal Guns (16/45 Mk 6L) has reload of 17.20s, while Iowa guns (16/50 Mk 7L) has reload of 17.16s. But 0.04 s is not going to make a difference.

it is true that NorCal guns has slower reload than SoDak guns (16/50 Mk 3L), by about 0.5 s, though the train speed is higher for NorCal.


Personally, I like the SoDak better. For the same reason I liked the Guam, it has speed, which is what you need to survive against higher level BBs when you're out ranged and out damaged. Even though 1 v 1 between the 2 of them, the NorCal would probably win. (or win more often)

 

  • Re : North Carolina vs. South Dakota

    07. 22. 2013 20:02


megabstr

Originally Posted by Benser33

Originally Posted by megabstr
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NorCar gun reloads slower than Iowa (BB4) guns....

I think you mean slower than the Sodak guns. But yeah you're right, I forgot the NoCar reloads slower than the Sodak, although is better in every other way except angle.

 

like what above said,

i meant iowa

  • Re : North Carolina vs. South Dakota

    07. 23. 2013 10:23


Benser33

Originally Posted by megabstr

Originally Posted by Benser33

Originally Posted by megabstr
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NorCar gun reloads slower than Iowa (BB4) guns....

I think you mean slower than the Sodak guns. But yeah you're right, I forgot the NoCar reloads slower than the Sodak, although is better in every other way except angle.

 

like what above said,

i meant iowa

What do Iowa guns have to do with the difference between the NoCar guns and the SoDak guns?

  • Re : North Carolina vs. South Dakota

    07. 23. 2013 20:12


megabstr

if 1>3 and 2>1,  then 2>3.

omg

  • Re : North Carolina vs. South Dakota

    07. 23. 2013 22:20


Benser33

There is no 3.

 

OP said he has a ship tree reset, what is the difference between the NoCar and the Sodak. He will get the Iowa either way and the stats of the Iowa have no relevance to his question.

 

You originally quoted my comparison of the Nocar guns to the Sodak guns, telling me the Nocar guns reload slower than the Iowa guns... the Iowas guns weren't a part of the comparison so that particular correction was pointless. You would have been right in correcting me if you had said Sodak instead of Iowa, which is what I said in my reply. But still you continue to mention the Iowa guns and failed to answer my question, what do they have to do with the difference between the Nocar and the Sodak?

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