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  • SS1's in Blitz games?

    07. 31. 2011 03:55

Recommend : 31

Samsa
Howdy

I suggest that SS1's be allowed into blitz games. The reasons are few but valid i think.

Since SS1 types are so slow, have short dive time and usually packing only 4 tubes, I dont see how they were not allowed into Blitz games (although i heard subs were quite powerful when they 1st came out).

Since a SS1 is not such a big threat it should be allowed into Blitz games. Fighting in Great Battle with SS1 is quite a letdown and they dont really have any place in the fleet except as sonar support or anti-sub, and the latter is usually futile unless the other sub is a SS1 as well.

A SS1 in Blitz games would not be overpowered considering they can only sink 1 or 2 ships at a time per salvo normally (and if they are lucky). As far as fighting against a sub in blitz, well we all know there are no shortages of Hedge Hogs in Blitz since many ppl like to 1 shot BB's or CA's with them...

Now for all you folks who say "subs would = fail in blitz" or "subs in blitz would be overpowered" I need only mention the Kita. The KitaKami is capable of single handedly destroying half a fleet with its torp walls, and if it doesnt destroy everything in its path it will push the entire enemy fleet to the outer fringes of the battlefield. A Kitakami is far more Overpowered in Blitz than a SS1 or even an SS2 could be, and yet it is allowed to enter a blitz game and suppress an entire team with its torp walls. Just 1 ship can do all that.. OP?

Despite all that, this is not a anti Kitakami post. This is about giving SS1's a proper battlefield and a chance to let people have more fun since it is discouraging to fight in GB as a SS1 when they simply are not up to such fights. Sure you might get lucky or even be a pro with a SS1 in GB (Prove it on youtube :-P) but the fact that so many ppl opt to pass SS1 altogether by leveling their sub crews in destroyers pretty much says it all eh?

Oh Navy Field devs, please accept this suggestion and make this game more fun, fair and balanced.

Thats all.

 

  • Re : SS1's in Blitz games?

    07. 31. 2011 05:14


Arrgh
Recc'd for the hell of it, not like ss1 in blitz will ruin the game... And as oblivious as some blitzers are, the subs might actually have a chance.. if there no kitas around.

  • Re : SS1's in Blitz games?

    07. 31. 2011 05:36


phantom3553
recc'

but many will still say no, because they gonna ruin there blitz tactics which is rush rush rush XD... when sub will be allowed in blitz, rushing will probably stop and try to take caution, well it will develop more torp whore though and phh whore

  • Re : SS1's in Blitz games?

    07. 31. 2011 05:38


admstef
lol ss gonna get owned... If ss1 will be allowed you can rename blitz into SS deathrow.

70% of the ships will be albe to see it. But I think indeed ss1 would be played mroe if it was allowed in blitz. Most ppl just powerlvl to ss2 or even ss3.

  • Re : SS1's in Blitz games?

    08. 06. 2011 12:09


zstsz
This needs to be recommended.

SS1 in GB2 are grealy underpowered. They only make it about 1/8th worth of map before losing air. Then they get shot before they could torp anything. In Blitz the map is smaller and ships are closer to the subs. Yet 70% of the ships can see them, SS1 atleast have advantage of being underwater to dodge the shells.

  • Re : SS1's in Blitz games?

    08. 06. 2011 12:56


Tomm96
Originally Posted by zstsz

This needs to be recommended.

SS1 in GB2 are grealy underpowered. They only make it about 1/8th worth of map before losing air. Then they get shot before they could torp anything. In Blitz the map is smaller and ships are closer to the subs. Yet 70% of the ships can see them, SS1 atleast have advantage of being underwater to dodge the shells.


Still how many gonna use it?
You gonna have hhs,dc and torps all around them and more tks since most players in blitz are new players.

  • Re : SS1's in Blitz games?

    08. 06. 2011 19:01


Humberto20
either way, ss1 in Blitz or Great battles, are just snacks. In Great Battles they are pwned bad by SS's higher than them or ASW. In blitz, seems to be a nightmare for them, but they have more chances to get attack.

  • Re : SS1's in Blitz games?

    08. 07. 2011 03:53


Beuwulf
recc, even if all dd, ff or cl (with sonar) can see them, how many carry dc in exchange for torps? phh will run dry and no one seem to waste money on hh. ss1 will survive in blitz, if no torp whore there or they run out of air.

now side with cv or bb will be more balance is ss1 are allowed in blitz

  • Re : SS1's in Blitz games?

    08. 07. 2011 23:34


aingeal
If I had my way, CV1 and BB1 would be thrown out of blitz.

So no effin' way I'd recc getting SS1 in blitz.

Get the HH out too while you are at it.


On Kita:

Its not OP in blitz.

Its OP in Hobbit map. The M3 Mod 3 torps can box a fleet and reach the other extremity of the map.

Change back default map to NWO1, problem settled, most kita will revert back to M1 Mod 1 or 3/M3 mod 1. Maybe people will stop to use PHH & torp CA too.

I could somewhat understand BB1 in blitz. Its not that worse than PCAs, and give free-player a way to go against them without paying for one. The ones that totally wipe the floor with them would wipe it with a PCA instead. I've lost count of how many BB1s I've raped with moltke and the PS line. Or with HAW atlanta (surprise : lethal downpour for fattie ship)


Now next : CVs. No way they have their place in blitz. Basically, the power scale of CV bomber wise makes it that a CV1 doesnt have THAT less firepower and bomber reach than a CV3. You reach a difference once you get T2s, but otherwise, its still one heck of a payload being delivered on deck, at great range. Blitz ships dont have the SD and reps to deal with it.

CV1 should be forced back to GBs, where room often lack CV to start.

Next issue : Those damn hybrid CL/CA.

The balance system was never changed for the class change. Therefore, an oyo with dbs will be classed with the other CLs, rather than the CVs.

I,ve seen game where a mog CV oyo and the sole room CV were put on B when there was no CV at all on A, hybrid or otherwise.

So finding a why to kick those out of blitz, or limit them to TBs would be nice.

As it is, lower level DD/CLs and such figure, if they are going to be bombed silly, they better do it in GBs where the xp is much better.

Since GB2 and the blitz changes, they are in slow but continuous decline. People just get tired of playing them, where good DB whore are pretty much unstoppable, as they manage their plane around AA, and patiently wait for you to run out of OH to bomb you. And all ship get killed in one db wave of a CV1, or even an hybrid.

A 900 SD revenge could prolly live crippled.

  • Re : SS1's in Blitz games?

    08. 09. 2011 03:24


Beuwulf
you forgot one thing, oyo and mog44 are IJN specialty, if those are out, might as well kick out balti, york, county, PE, hipper, rurik (seriously, is this a bb or ca?) in short, kick out all ca and cl and leave the room to dd and ff

  • Re : SS1's in Blitz games?

    08. 09. 2011 03:45


heatrr
Originally Posted by aingeal

So no effin' way I'd recc getting SS1 in blitz.


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