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  • All BB4 - 6 Max Gun range?

    06. 13. 2015 08:25

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HKO2006

Thank the recent patch now we can see the max gun range of all guns in harbour, without the need of running a field test. So please reply the max gun ranges you know and complete the list.

*Important*
The Max Gun displayed in habour is NOT the acutal range but a 'component of the overall range value', the purpose of the value is to let the player 'set your guidelines properly'. (see replies for more info)

[QUOTE=kartofflr]

BB4
H39: 2957 (x2 91)
Stalin: 2943 (x3 91)
Yamato: 2923 (x3 91)
Iowa: 2910 ( x3 91)
CD('37) / CdC('40): 2904 (x2/x3 91) 
Vanni: 2903 (x2 91)
Richelieu: 2863 (x4 91)
L1: 2850 (x3 91)

EBB4 
With 8 sup slots = BB4 range (96)
=> Washington, Vanni('46), Musashi, H41, Clemenceau, Stalin('53), LdV (=12 shells, 98) / GC('40) (=10 shells, 96)
EBB4.5
With 7 sup slots = BB5 range (99)
=> Missouri, Temeraire, Shinano, J39, Jean Bart

BB5 (100 > 110!)
H44: 2991 (x2 100) 2988 (x2 110)
L2: 2977 (x3 100) 2971 (x3 110)
SY: 2976 (x3 100) 2970 (x2 110)
Monty: 2955 (x3 100) 2977 (x2 110)
Soyuz: 2976 (x3 100) 2955 (x4 110)
VV: 2954 (x3 100) (jumps up to bb6 range!)
Alsace: 2959 (x4 100)

EBB5.5 (115 set = clone of corresponding BB5 sets => +- same range; slightly increased dmg)

BB6
Kaiser: 3117
P24: 3102
Nebby: 3088
Amagi: 3068
QV: 3057
UP41: 3041
Charly: cant buy >:{

EBB6 (120 set = clone of corresponding BB6 sets  => increased rel, same or tiny dmg difference)

[/QUOTE]


Older data
BB ranges in 2011
https://navyfield.com/Community/Forum/View.aspx?num=1857&searchtype=1&pagecount=0&searchvalue=richard&sort=5&category=D01&page1=1

BB3 ranges in 2012
https://navyfield.com/Community/Forum/View.aspx?num=11411&searchtype=1&pagecount=0&searchvalue=richard&sort=5&category=D01&page1=1 

RN BB Gun Ranges in 2011
https://fm.en.navyfield.com/Community/Forum/View.aspx?category=A02&num=5231 

 

  • Re : All BB4 - 6 Max Gun Range?

    06. 13. 2015 13:49


joris92

I believe it wasn't that accurate... If Norm/Lj/grief or someone else from the testteam says it is I can give you all numbers

  • Re : All BB4 - 6 Max Gun Range?

    06. 13. 2015 23:31


HKO2006

Oh great if you have all of them! This list was actually the first thing came into my mind when I saw the patch notes. It is a shame range being one of the most important part of the gameplay yet not being well documented.

  • Re : All BB4 - 6 Max Gun Range?

    06. 14. 2015 11:29


nyerkovic

Originally Posted by joris92

I believe it wasn't that accurate... If Norm/Lj/grief or someone else from the testteam says it is I can give you all numbers



It isn't completely accurate.

  • Re : All BB4 - 6 Max Gun Range?

    06. 15. 2015 10:18


joris92

Originally Posted by HKO2006

Oh great if you have all of them! This list was actually the first thing came into my mind when I saw the patch notes. It is a shame range being one of the most important part of the gameplay yet not being well documented.



Wouldn't trust too much on it, because I can also outrange a H44 with a H39... =') It depends on the player. With some experience you can easily find out which ships have more range then others. 

I've been oneshotted a couple of times when I was pretty sure that the guy couldn't hit me. It happens and I learn from it...  

  • Re : All BB4 - 6 Max Gun Range?

    06. 16. 2015 22:38


normpearii

Range =/= In Harbor Displayed Value



All the individuals whom are more willing to better explain this have been banned by SDE recently. 

It's a plain surprise me grief and nyer aren't full banned yet either. 
Actually, that might be all of the test team left that isn't. 

  • Re : All BB4 - 6 Max Gun Range?

    06. 17. 2015 07:23


joris92

Originally Posted by normpearii

Range =/= In Harbor Displayed Value



All the individuals whom are more willing to better explain this have been banned by SDE recently. 

It's a plain surprise me grief and nyer aren't full banned yet either. 
Actually, that might be all of the test team left that isn't. 



Why are they banned, Normpearii? 
Normally I don't pay that much attention on the way NavyFIELD's GMs act, but when you start banning people who spend lots of their spare time in this game then you go a bridge too far. You really make it look like you want this game to die. I was actually having hope again, because of the good news lately. Also the test team was doing some really good work. (ignoring the forum bans and the bans because of multiple accounts...)

I frankly don't care whether they abused a bug or whatever they can do on a testserver. The person responible for the ban should have announced this with a reason, because a test team member is not just an random noob. Well... I assume that... Now you are creating speculations and we all think now that you banned them for nothing important. So tell us why you banned certain members of the test team, because we would like to know the reason for this.

They must have done something extremely terrible when such people get such punishment.


Or Normpearii is trolling that would be new, but well a reaction would be welcome.

  • Re : All BB4 - 6 Max Gun Range?

    06. 17. 2015 12:46


nyerkovic

Originally Posted by joris92

So tell us why you banned certain members of the test team, because we would like to know the reason for this.


They must have done something extremely terrible when such people get such punishment.

That is a good question and I wish I knew the answer, after more than a month we still don't know the reasons. We have never abused a bug or any other mistake because our role is precisely to inform them and help fix them.

Most were banned when the discussion of the USR that introduced the famous rule 22 started. Many of us (along with many other players) argued against that rule because due to our work we were all subject to being banned by it. We didn't log in until that rule was resolved because due to our work here we have access to 7 accounts that SDE prepared for us + our personal ones. Even with that, people were banned. One of the testers kept clear and tried to log in 26 days later only to find a "your IP has been banned" message.

Another tester had his secondary account banned for bypassing a ban on his main account... but guess what... his main is fully active.

As norm said, the only ones that are still not banned are Griefer, Him and Me... for how long? I don't know. I haven't been posting much to keep my account safe because since we don't know what triggered it, not posting seems to be the safest rout to take.  

  • Re : All BB4 - 6 Max Gun?

    06. 18. 2015 05:49


HKO2006

Dark history..
Anyways, found a bit more info (for newbies like me) about Max Gun displayed value =/= actual range.
Italy BB6 range has been restored to previous? in Test Server
http://fm.en.kupaisky.com/Community/Forum/View.aspx?num=24706&searchtype=0&pagecount=0&searchvalue=&sort=5&category=C03&page1=1

From the above thread, we know Max Gun is at least a factor in the range formula. My question is, is it reliable to be used to compare different gun range?

Also added the *Important* part in the thread.

  • Re : All BB4 - 6 Max Gun Range?

    06. 18. 2015 06:03


joris92

@Nyer Well that is sad to hear. It is logical if your boss threat you like that you are going to look for a different job. Sadly the GMs have made the mistake here that you guys do this job out of love for the game. 

I have never understood the GMs anyway. It seems like the gamemoderators are not used to the culture this community brings. 

I have worked for six years in a supermarket next to school, to earn some money. I have learned that it doesn't matter to give something free to an angry customer, as long as they went out happy. Like a big supermarket would notice those few items you give away for free every year, the only thing they ll notice is that those customers come back to their supermarket.

If you would apply this to this game then why would you ban people with having multiple accounts? Why would you even care if this is what the community wants. (there is a difference between having multiple accounts and making abuse of having multiple accounts).

Banning volunteers is the most disgraceful thing you can do, that's for sure.

On topic:
I do not understand what you mean by max gun value? If you mean the number as shown in the harbour then why would you rely on that when knowing it is not the same as your actual range.
What do you actually want to know, HKO20016? A simple list of ships which can outrange what ship is not good enough? Do you want specific numbers?

  • Re : All BB4 - 6 Max Gun range?

    06. 18. 2015 06:30


HKO2006

Ya, what ship outrange what ship is exactly what I am looking for. Downloading the test server client now.
Also changed back max gun value to max gun range, for not confusing everyone and SEO.

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