Wait what?



Extra OH time underwater for paying users? I fail to see how you could get premium *batteries*



Can't aim? /care. Heck you already have fast torps that are nearly undodgeable, and when you do dodge, well splash gets you for nearly full damage. The sub that gets a great aim should also have an advantage over any opponent as far as SS vs SS goes.



SS are balanced to have less support slot. Support number is a BB strenght, and you shouldn't have the rep/engine abilities of one either. You cannot ask to be the best at everything.



Meaning?



Nerf submergence. SS4 with full SD can take blank point BB6 shot.




Your post is overall not helping the discussion about how to balance them, but mainly asking SDE to have them be an auto-win button.




Not sure what you mean by "No thread without specific information, or specific response, why or why not should be introduced.the number" but also know this is NF.com forum, NF.com forum rules apply. Rules are established by people that have a coercitive power to back them up. You don't.

As far as NF.com goes, the forum rules already include no flaming, no need to post that.

As far by the thread rules, from previous threads as sub suggestion, was more than enough. So, lets leave it at that point. I meaning, anything that is useless, will be easier for mods to hide.

As far as wishlist, as you can see, there is numbers next to them. They will get the number as + 1 and so.As of my concern, this is overall suggestion, not only me suggest, but other players as well. The main purpose of this thread, its too keep all ss wishlist here. and no all separated and repeated.

If someone people thinks each tier are Op by their level, lets do it this way, split the current power from ss1- ss4, divide all the feautures, power,defense into submarine and its upgrades. Lets say for example: Kaidai, the upgrade is Kaida Type II.* its just an example, to give you an idea )

Lets say overall power in IJN sub torpedo power from ss1- ss6 = 20k for example

Tier 1 = 8,000
Tier1 upgrade= 11,000
tier 2= 12000
tier 2 upgrade 13500
Tier 3 15000
tier 3 upgrade 16000
Tier 4 18000
tier 4 upgrade 20,000

Ammount of torpedoes

SS1 = 18 torpedoes
SS1 upgrade 22 torpedos
SS2- 25 Torpedoes
SS2 upgrade 28 torpedoes
SS3 31 torpedoes
SS3 upgrade 34 torpedoes
SS4 38 torpedoes
ss4 upgrade 41 torpedoes.


Displacement

SS1= 10,000
SS1U 11500
SS2 12000
SS2u 13000
SS3 15000
SS3U 17000
SS4 19000
SS4U 20500


Air time

SS1 = 1:15mins
SS1U = 1:35 mins
SS2= 2:05 mins
SS2u= 2:30 mins
SS3: 2:45 mins
SS3u: 3:15 mins
SS4: 3:40 mins
SS4u: 4:10 mins


Im talking about something like this.


Premium batteries can be used same a smoke, but there is a limitation; lets says between 24-50 batteries per purchase, 1.99 per 50 batteries. When you use you the batterie, after your regular air is down, you must surface and use it, it will give you 35% of total air capacity, but gotta wait 1 minute in order to use it again or same as smoke wait period.


Artillery rockets can be also used for submarines, they dont have good accuracy,but its a good tool to use against FF.DD.CL.The AR shouldnt have enough power to hit badly a BB. lets says anything from 1-3% of total damage, you can only carry certain amount per tier. reload time: from 45 secs to 1 min.

Perfect balance?

Thats a massive "I want my ship to be massively boosted so I can rickroll everything in the room" party package.


In its whole, its got about as much logic as requesting missile launcher on FFs.

I haven't seen a single reason why it would help the balance, or what it would "fix".

Its I want this and I want that.

And after people are surprised when we say the GMs probably read suggestion forum when they want a good laugh.

I'm actually afraid SDE will yet again be nomnomnom money money and could introduce dumb content in order to suck a few pennies from sub players.





As much as you say that, what I'm seeing here is sub player that ask for this or that without being constructive about why they ask. I want to see you explain why you think this would be profitable to sub, how you are seeing it apply, what counter part you are proposing to it and why you are proposing them.

I won't bother telling you more RL =/= NF, since I doubt you actually have the ability to process its meaning after the tons of "make this game RL!!!" suggestions you posted.

However, what about if I said this :

Iowa had nuclear shell developped, give nuclear fire to USN BB4!

You'd actually applaud the idea saying its RL content?

follow your logic NF=/=RL JUST FOR ONE SIDE?REALLY? and Balance just one side?
Iowa project shell nuke really? and poor Germans(high tech have nothing)?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoMR_Oj6Qrs
your NF=/RL argument is fail,you cant read and processing information.
Don't Quote to my if enter in library just for xxx stuff or color books.
Can be constructive or just reply spam?That is you?