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  • Ship/Class/Tier Balance Threads Moved to Test Server Discussion

    09. 01. 2011 11:12

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ljsevern
My suggestion is to move anything asking for changes to current ship's/tier's and classes to be moved to the test server forum rather than here.

This is because that is where the changes are made, and it is more actively looked at by the test team leadership.

Keep this suggestion forum for new game modes, new content, events and other suggestions. 

 

  • Re : Ship/Class/Tier Balance Threads Moved to Test Server Discussion

    09. 01. 2011 11:16


aingeal
Goes in line with my toughts on cleaning this section.

Also its giving the ideas directly to the people who are going to use them.

Recc'ed.

Altough I hope the test server section doesnt get flooded with people on a rant, and that actually come with a well-explained idea, and not a 1st grader rant.

  • Re : Ship/Class/Tier Balance Threads Moved to Test Server Discussion

    09. 01. 2011 11:22


nyerkovic
I'm interested in this suggestion, specially because it's one that I can help to make it happen.

The only question I have is... wouldn't this just turn the test server forum into a section with a bunch of "make X ship better!" threads? Just like the SY thread a few days ago (no offense to the creator of that thread).

Having one suggestion like that every once in a while isn't that terrible... but if we move every suggestion for change there, it would make things troublesome for people that want to have serious discussions and serious work.

I would rather have well planned discussions in the test server, than let every suggestion about changes moved there.

  • Re : Ship/Class/Tier Balance Threads Moved to Test Server Discussion

    09. 01. 2011 11:23


nyerkovic
Originally Posted by aingeal

Altough I hope the test server section doesnt get flooded with people on a rant, and that actually come with a well-explained idea, and not a 1st grader rant.


My thoughts exactly. You beat me to the post.

  • Re : Ship/Class/Tier Balance Threads Moved to Test Server Discussion

    09. 01. 2011 11:28


devildog8
Originally Posted by nyerkovic

Originally Posted by aingeal

Altough I hope the test server section doesnt get flooded with people on a rant, and that actually come with a well-explained idea, and not a 1st grader rant.


My thoughts exactly. You beat me to the post.


I agree that all this will do is flood the test server with ppl whining about they got sunk and shouldnt have

I do agree any changes within the ships should be to the attention of the test team, to see if an idea has merit, but I also wouldnt want these same idea to flood the area with rants and whines

and also who whould over see what would be taken serious? and not?

  • Re : Ship/Class/Tier Balance Threads Moved to Test Server Discussion

    09. 01. 2011 11:29


aingeal
Originally Posted by nyerkovic

I'm interested in this suggestion, specially because it's one that I can help to make it happen.

The only question I have is... wouldn't this just turn the test server forum into a section with a bunch of "make X ship better!" threads? Just like the SY thread a few days ago (no offense to the creator of that thread).

Having one suggestion like that every once in a while isn't that terrible... but if we move every suggestion for change there, it would make things troublesome for people that want to have serious discussions and serious work.

I would rather have well planned discussions in the test server, than let every suggestion about changes moved there.


Test server discussion section is Mailman's baby, and he doesn't hesitate to lock and delete pointless topic.

So I think he would keep control.

Exemple of that is that SY thread you mentionned.

But I see it as a potential of risk.


Also due to the fact its players and a TNF rep that are in charge of balancing, they see what is written, and participate in. If an idea is worthless, its quickly ignored. You don't have to draw the GMs attention on it as much, since that team, if they judge the idea interesting, will ask them to patch the test server with it and test it.

So I'd say its the good place for it. I know regardless of what happens with this, I already go to that section to discuss balance.

  • Re : Ship/Class/Tier Balance Threads Moved to Test Server Discussion

    09. 01. 2011 11:34


aingeal
Originally Posted by devildog8

Originally Posted by nyerkovic

Originally Posted by aingeal

Altough I hope the test server section doesnt get flooded with people on a rant, and that actually come with a well-explained idea, and not a 1st grader rant.


My thoughts exactly. You beat me to the post.


I agree that all this will do is flood the test server with ppl whining about they got sunk and shouldnt have

I do agree any changes within the ships should be to the attention of the test team, to see if an idea has merit, but I also wouldnt want these same idea to flood the area with rants and whines

and also who whould over see what would be taken serious? and not?



Obviously, if the suggestion consist of a badly put together sentence, with no argument and no analysis of the idea and its impact, written in 1st grader fashion with spelling murder and syntax being coldly butchered, chances are the idea is worthless.

As I said in my suggestion bout this forum, if you can't be arsed to think about your idea and its effects in game, it doesnt deserve to be out there.

"this ship sux srsly u guys need give it big range cuz oterwise unfair!"

How long would you take to lock that?

  • Re : Ship/Class/Tier Balance Threads Moved to Test Server Discussion

    09. 01. 2011 11:42


nyerkovic
Originally Posted by aingeal


Test server discussion section is Mailman's baby, and he doesn't hesitate to lock and delete pointless topic.

So I think he would keep control.

Exemple of that is that SY thread you mentionned.

But I see it as a potential of risk.


Also due to the fact its players and a TNF rep that are in charge of balancing, they see what is written, and participate in. If an idea is worthless, its quickly ignored. You don't have to draw the GMs attention on it as much, since that team, if they judge the idea interesting, will ask them to patch the test server with it and test it.

So I'd say its the good place for it. I know regardless of what happens with this, I already go to that section to discuss balance.


That's why I said that threads like the SY one, once in a while aren't a real problem.
But when you send every thread to the test server area, believe me it would be hard to filter all the threads and I'm afraid Mailman and the team would be spending too much of their time filtering rather than discussing.

I would rather let them work, than having them spend time in those things.

That's my biggest concern, the time they would spend filtering vs the time with real work.
Yes, they can filter and can keep that section clean... but do we want Mailman to do it? I don't want him to.

  • Re : Ship/Class/Tier Balance Threads Moved to Test Server Discussion

    09. 01. 2011 12:06


Blazer4show
Create a subsection in the testing forum for ship suggestions, balance, etc. Will not stop flooding of spam, but will keep it apart from the main threads.

  • Re : Ship/Class/Tier Balance Threads Moved to Test Server Discussion

    09. 01. 2011 12:14


normpearii
I'd rather delete the suggestion area.... The only suggestions I've ever seen become content were Sent in as Tickets with detailed information. 60% of the post in here are Buff this or Nerf This whine threads anyway.

  • Re : Ship/Class/Tier Balance Threads Moved to Test Server Discussion

    09. 01. 2011 12:21


ljsevern
To be honest, there are already stupid threads and posts. What it will do is teach more people about game balance, rather than have the spam threads we have now.

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