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  • Deck vs Bombs

    10. 06. 2011 23:47


Eufonioum
So I remember there was a post in the old forum where it said Deck armor is "All or Nothing" and also that "Since dive bombers drop their bombs at a near 90 degree angle, that bombs couldn't be bounced."

I have been driving an IJN BW for a few months now and I'm currently in the Zuikaku. My bombs have been bounced by a lot of unarmor whored BBs/CVs.  For example, I have a video of my 4/6 bombs hitting 0s on a Le Havre. Also there were many instances where my bombs were bounced off a 3gun Lion 2.

My question is, how does armor work in this game?!?! 

 

  • Re : Deck vs Bombs

    10. 06. 2011 23:50


Elliot2lazy
if you put 20" of UK deck armor on a ship...basically a ship without all their main guns, bombs will bounce not matter how strong they are even the old over powered MN bombs before they got nerfed. I know.... me and a few mods tested it out a few months ago.

  • Re : Deck vs Bombs

    10. 07. 2011 10:12


Sonlirain
You may have hit the belt instead of the deck.

Bombs hitting the belt deal FAR less damage or even get bounced by relatively small ammounts of armor.

  • Re : Deck vs Bombs

    10. 07. 2011 10:56


Eradicator1
I conducted a test vs an armored L2 vs an unarmored L2.

The one with armor took about 10k less damage

  • Re : Deck vs Bombs

    10. 07. 2011 12:34


darby7373
Link to video, please.

  • Re : Deck vs Bombs

    10. 07. 2011 13:55


normpearii
If a bomb hits the side of the ship sprite it counts as a belt hit, which does less damage than deck hits. Also 90 degrees to belt bounces almost all the time. Hence the 0s.


Try aiming near the center of ships or position your bombers so they hit closer to center.

  • Re : Deck vs Bombs

    10. 07. 2011 14:59


Eufonioum
Originally Posted by darby7373

Link to video, please.


Ok I will try to make the size of video smaller, cuz 300mb is kinda hard to upload on youtube.

  • Re : Deck vs Bombs

    10. 07. 2011 16:59


DeathAddict
Originally Posted by Elliot2lazy

if you put 20" of UK deck armor on a ship...basically a ship without all their main guns, bombs will bounce not matter how strong they are even the old over powered MN bombs before they got nerfed. I know.... me and a few mods tested it out a few months ago.


The question is.......... will it Bounce an SY or Amagi SHOT!?

  • Re : Deck vs Bombs

    10. 07. 2011 23:48


catsandcradl
Originally Posted by DeathAddict

Originally Posted by Elliot2lazy

if you put 20" of UK deck armor on a ship...basically a ship without all their main guns, bombs will bounce not matter how strong they are even the old over powered MN bombs before they got nerfed. I know.... me and a few mods tested it out a few months ago.


The question is.......... will it Bounce an SY or Amagi SHOT!?


I own both an SY and also an L1.

If I armor the L1 to 12.9 of deck armor and take it out into GB, it will bounce everything at MAX RANGE except the SY. Everything else, Monty, L2, H44, Alsac, and the SN BB5 all bounce with multiple zeros popping up or two digit numbers. About half of the SY's shot still get through. I know that the SYs are firing at angle at least 43 or greater because I am out ranged in my L1 when they are shooting. In order to effectively bounce their shots I estimate that the L1 has to get under the SY's angle 40.

The only problem is in order to reach 12.9 of deck with the L1, I use 2 of the Hood's level 81 guns which have light enough weight to do this. This means I have a severe drop in firepower. With 12.9 of deck, you basically become a ship that distracts the other team so that your team can safely come in and deal out massive damage while you twist and turn trying to avoid the other sides AP shots (if they are smart enough to carry and use them - and many times they are not). All the while you pepper them with your 4 shells. You are depending on your team to damage the other side while you make your self a distracting target for the other side.

Now one on one with an SY is a problem because an AW L1 only goes 36 knts. Whereas an SY goes 42knts. So they can effectively run out of the L1's range and stay out of range and meanwhile cause severe damage.

And if there's a Junsen or better sub, pretty much 12.9 inches of deck means the AW sinks very fast since itcan't get away from thesub or manover fast enough.

  • Re : Deck vs Bombs

    10. 08. 2011 00:24


taurus94
A monty firing at 45degrees will quite happily hit a decent salvo on an AW L1 and deal plenty of damage... or a monty with the 110 guns.

  • Re : Deck vs Bombs

    10. 08. 2011 11:16


richardphat
@all

12,9" bounce SY at max range.
12,9" won't bounce Nebraska at max range
12,9" won't bounce amagi at max range
With some other gunset as well.
(uk)

Armour piercing for monty 16" is practically the same as monty 18"
The only thing, is instead of having 12" deck piercing at 45 you have at 40 degrees.


You won't even bounce amagi.
It takes over 21" deck and maybe even even more to bounce nebraska and amagi.


There is something called. Video render and compression. To turn a 300 mb into a 40-50mb file.

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