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  • How much armour will bounce what shells?

    11. 15. 2011 13:28


mikester
Hi there!

I was wondering how much Deck armour will bounce (on average, obviously ships have different levels of penetration) what calibre shells? Is 5.8" much?

Thanks!

Mike

 

  • Re : How much armour will bounce what shells?

    11. 15. 2011 13:35


phillipM
i belive you need 7inches to affectivly do it the more the better but 7 is the bare minimume

  • Re : How much armour will bounce what shells?

    11. 15. 2011 13:36


mikester
Thanks!

  • Re : How much armour will bounce what shells?

    11. 15. 2011 21:16


LILITALY5179
9" of UK to bounce most low-medium battleship shells

you wont bounce shells at angles 43-45 or <30

43-45 go through armor like butter
anything <30 hits belt so deck is useless

  • Re : How much armour will bounce what shells?

    11. 27. 2011 01:19


EricIdle
As many people have a bind of AP with their guns as well, I think armour is overrated. 9" or even 12" of that won't protect against AP.

Better get good speed and good repair.

  • Re : How much armour will bounce what shells?

    11. 27. 2011 06:54


pecuLIAR
I'm using a Repulse with med-high levels of SD right now and 8" armor. I've replaced the rear gun with a HH, saving enough weight to let me run with 35knts OH.

Sometimes I bounce H44 guns. Other BB5 salvos hurt, but it lets me get into range and/or escape. Of course the more prepared BBs would have at least one bind of AP shells, but switching to it on my lowly BB2 seems a waste of time for 'em so they hit me with HE still, making it very effective.

I think to get more armor thickness, you'd have to own late classed sailors, for the weight savings. Any speed lower than 35knts would negate the advantages of being armored.

  • Re : How much armour will bounce what shells?

    11. 28. 2011 08:30


maughany
I have noticed that bouncing shells is a bit random (might only be me though). One shot I will bounce shells and the next I wont even at the same range. Anyway for UK BBs I find that the ships you should armour with deck are L1, L2 and probably QV (although I cant use that, scout too low :( ) and possibly armour the nelly, POW and KGV.

Really dont armour anything below that unless it is in blitz or another low lvl game type.

Mike, 5.8" isnt much for a BB and the chances are it will slow you down quite a bit. In a GB this will probably just get you sunk more easily. With higher lvl crews you can run a BB with this but the SD and rep rate help a lot. Also the engies will help to speed you up so harder target. 5.8" may be enough for you to do a hit and run job in a low lvl BB but at low lvls dont sacrifice speed for armour as it wont help you.

Hope this helps in some way.

maughany

  • Re : How much armour will bounce what shells?

    11. 28. 2011 12:08


kos123
As said above 7" is the smallest amount needed to bounce shells, but the only bbs you will bounce with that amount are bb1&2s for pretty much every nation, save for KM wich 7" can bounce all the way up to the H44, while 8-9.7" is about were you can start bounce some more nations b4/5s but few of them.

  • Re : How much armour will bounce what shells?

    11. 28. 2011 17:48


phillipM
Originally Posted by pecuLIAR

I'm using a Repulse with med-high levels of SD right now and 8" armor. I've replaced the rear gun with a HH, saving enough weight to let me run with 35knts OH.

Sometimes I bounce H44 guns. Other BB5 salvos hurt, but it lets me get into range and/or escape. Of course the more prepared BBs would have at least one bind of AP shells, but switching to it on my lowly BB2 seems a waste of time for 'em so they hit me with HE still, making it very effective.

I think to get more armor thickness, you'd have to own late classed sailors, for the weight savings. Any speed lower than 35knts would negate the advantages of being armored.

im depressed

  • Re : How much armour will bounce what shells?

    11. 29. 2011 21:46


captcrazy
armoring a uk ship is simple 0.2 min but i prefer 0.9 belt and full deck .

but dont think your armor will always save you, 9.4 of uk armor can easy bounce kaiser shell but will never bounce a full angle shot from other l2 or yammy and monty , you got to play smart cause 35knt is slow. and 9.4 of armor is nothing when the guys swicht to ap. so leanr to doge shell and you will love your aw ship


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  • Re : How much armour will bounce what shells?

    11. 30. 2011 06:19


pecuLIAR
LoL heres another..

I applied the same 8" deck armor to the UK EBB1 Dreadnought, 2 guns onboard and 2 lvl80 engineers to help me run 35knts. I took a full salvo (well, maybe.. I know I took alot of it) from Kaiser and survived the whole game. I find it really, really amusing to see these bb5/6 hitting me again and again, not using AP rounds to kill me faster. Placing high level Repairers increased my survivability with high SD (I was normally using the ship to level some pilots, lol).

I see some bounces/lessened damage still, and I'd usually act as bait while my teammates rounded up my back to get wins off with my armored BB1. It generally really seems that most higher tier BB users would very much hesitate to use AP rounds for anything that would never pose a threat to them.

It was way different with my experience using a Nelson or Lion 1, because once they observe you're armored, they'd immediately switch to AP rounds.

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