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  • Oakland or Juneau II

    07. 06. 2011 10:51


jj011004
Hi guys! 

I know the choices are not really capital ship materails but since I am new to this game, which one is better,  Oakland or Juneau II ? And what is the advantage of one over the other? (I have hread that Juneau is a better AA ship than Oaklan). 

 

  • Re : Oakland or Juneau II

    07. 06. 2011 13:08


megabstr
juneau has more aaw stat if i remembered correctly, but overall they're pretty similar. (aaw stat doesnt really matter tho except for shooting down lowered planes with the automatic guns. plus USN pretty much have high aaw on all ships)

oakland has bigger gun spaces and give you more ammo on the heavy 5"/54 high angling guns (even tho nubbit map in blitz kinda killed high angling)

get the oakland. the increased gun space makes it a more versatile ship. more ammo in AAing is always a plus.

EDIT: all being said. juneau still looks better >.<

  • Re : Oakland or Juneau II

    07. 06. 2011 15:48


aingeal
Originally Posted by megabstr
juneau has more aaw stat if i remembered correctly, but overall they're pretty similar. (aaw stat doesnt really matter tho except for shooting down lowered planes with the automatic guns. plus USN pretty much have high aaw on all ships)

oakland has bigger gun spaces and give you more ammo on the heavy 5"/54 high angling guns (even tho nubbit map in blitz kinda killed high angling)

get the oakland. the increased gun space makes it a more versatile ship. more ammo in AAing is always a plus.

EDIT: all being said. juneau still looks better >.<


Juneau is waaay to brown for my taste :P

Anyway HAW is far from dead in nubbit. Just nobody is doing it anymore, but leveling a US on nelson, I made it work quite well. Murders CA and BB1 quite well with APC.

However, since you are new to the game, I'd suggest keeping your cred and sticking to the atlanta since remod fees ain't refundable. You'll need your creds for brook or (particularly) NH.

  • Re : Oakland or Juneau II

    07. 08. 2011 10:44


jj011004
Thanks for the tips guys. I'm practicing HA with my Atlanta now but I think I'll go for Oak when have the right BO level. I might need to extra strength and ammo then slug it all out until I have enough creds for a Brook or NH...

:-P

  • Re : Oakland or Juneau II

    07. 08. 2011 11:46


KingCong
Atlanta has an exrta slot on each side making its broadside a bit greater. If you use the 3"70s to AA in GB, ammo space is no problem and Atlanta is better, especially if you are too porr to remod.

  • Re : Oakland or Juneau II

    07. 08. 2011 12:19


megabstr
Originally Posted by aingeal

Anyway HAW is far from dead in nubbit. Just nobody is doing it anymore
.


....my point stands

and seriously. anything works on nelson blitz

  • Re : Oakland or Juneau II

    08. 03. 2011 06:05


johnichus
Originally Posted by aingeal

Anyway HAW is far from dead in nubbit. Just nobody is doing it anymore
.


I'm one of few players who is still try to use HAW in blitz......

It is much difficult to introduce wt is HAW.......while most of the newbies are using auto FCS.....
When i started to use HAW, i loved it. I'm with HAW until 61lv......(sommer->ddx->atlanta->brooklyn)
I enjoy giving bullets rain to cl/ca/noob bbs. The uss 5"dual turrets are the best HA gun compare to other nations....
But newbie would ignore it and use the 6"dual for dd style......
It's silly that the firing arc of atlanta+remodels are quite limited.......
You can't play it like a dd anymore. I would say that it's like a bb if it is mounted HA-gun.

  • Re : Oakland or Juneau II

    08. 03. 2011 20:59


aingeal
Originally Posted by megabstr

Originally Posted by aingeal

Anyway HAW is far from dead in nubbit. Just nobody is doing it anymore
.


....my point stands

and seriously. anything works on nelson blitz


Back handed, vague and judgemental comment to support your point? I'll take this as you don't have any valid argument/fact to bring against the statement, thanks.

Main reason HAW isn't used anymore isnt that it doesn't work. Its that its one of the harder form of shooting (as you pass an inversion in your angles, and need to correctly predict the moves of an opponent on a much bigger time scale) but mainly its a lost art.

Hard for a new player to pick it up if they don't see anyone using it, or dont understand why it hits as hard.

I still use it on NY, and it still works quite fine. I sadly dont have an atlanta in blitz anymore, its by far my favorite HAWing ship.

Once a ship get in range, its massive damage that rains down on it. And said range is quite good for a CL1.

Of course, direct fire is still better against most DDs. Keeping a backbind of HHE for them can be nice, but APC work still at blank point fire.

The firing arc are somewhat of a weakness. Compared with all the other advantages the ship offer, its a really small one in my mind. It mainly gets annoying when using it as an AA ship, which is why if I am to AA with a USN CL, I'll choose brook or omaha over the atlanta-class ships.

  • Re : Oakland or Juneau II

    08. 03. 2011 22:07


V2CxBongRipz
Hobbit wars kills all sorts of fun playstyles, high angle included. There just isnt enough room for the run and gun style you need to lead targets into your shells. There isnt even room to play DD1/FF properly in hobbit war map.

  • Re : Oakland or Juneau II

    08. 03. 2011 23:02


megabstr
i guess high angling in atlanta class is more usable than high angling in the county. i miss the county.

v2 still smells like armpit

  • Re : Oakland or Juneau II

    08. 03. 2011 23:27


aingeal
Originally Posted by megabstr

i guess high angling in atlanta class is more usable than high angling in the county. i miss the county.

v2 still smells like armpit



UK HAW DID get a bit f**ed by hobbit yeah. That I concede.

Mainly they got to revert back to direct fire much sooner due to the guns having lesser gun elevation, and the reload on their gun makes it a way more range based HAW.

It still works quite well on BBs and CAs tough.


Atlanta reload, and the fact it can HAW even in close range however made it that hobbit map didnt that much hurt its ability to do so.

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