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  • -lvl 21 X2 5.9"/48 TBK SK C/36-T

    06. 06. 2012 05:54


OttoReinhold

Hey everyone,

I've got a question about the gun from the topic. If anyone wonders it is a gun for DDs (mainly Z31's remodels). According to it's requirements it only needs a sailor lvl21+ with the "gun" ability.

Now I have this crew, that is supposed to become a CV crew. So except the BO and the seaman everyone is classed special force and has the skills "torpedo" and "gun". All are 21 or higher. Yet nobody can use it. It says unmatched ability. Why?

 

  • Re : -lvl 21 X2 5.9"/48 TBK SK C/36-T

    06. 06. 2012 07:22


Mezak76

If your are going for CV line you need to start from the following bases:
Will Need: 1 BO (Pot 14 or 15) , 5 to 6 Fighter pilots (Stat 12 en Fighter) 2 or 3 Dive Bombers (stat 12 in Bomber). Thats the base crew.

Additional sailors could be: 1 -2 seaman (Stat 12 FP / 11 DB is almost impossible, but seems to be the best) and 2 AA (stat 12 rel) that can be used as AA or with HH against SS.

IF you clased a Gunner sailor, engine, repair, etc as special force only to have the pilots for your CV, you made a huge mistake. Those pilots will be useless in the future.

Search more information, or talk with high level CV´s for advice.

I hope this help you. 

  • Re : -lvl 21 X2 5.9"/48 TBK SK C/36-T

    06. 06. 2012 07:25


utcloud

To use armaments, you will need to classify one or more as
'Armament Sailor' at level 12. Even though they may have the ABILITY (the + beside their stat) they will need the specialization (whether Support for engineering/repair/restore; Special Force for pilots/marines/paratroops; or Arm Sailor for gunnery).

 

Hope this makes sense and is of assisance to you.

  • Re : -lvl 21 X2 5.9"/48 TBK SK C/36-T

    06. 06. 2012 07:43


OttoReinhold

Originally Posted by utcloud

To use armaments, you will need to classify one or more as
'Armament Sailor' at level 12. Even though they may have the ABILITY (the + beside their stat) they will need the specialization (whether Support for engineering/repair/restore; Special Force for pilots/marines/paratroops; or Arm Sailor for gunnery).

 

Hope this makes sense and is of assisance to you.


Strange, because other guns like the 3.46" and the 4.1" ones do work with the special forces sailors. And besides different level requirement they show the same required ability "gun".

Well then, I was hoping I could use my future pilots as gunners in the small ships with few support slots. But I suppose most higher level guns cannot be used by them either then.

 

@Mezak: don't worry about my sailors. I've been playing this game for a few years. I was just wondering why they couldnt use that gun despite seemingly having all the required abilities.

  • Re : -lvl 21 X2 5.9"/48 TBK SK C/36-T

    06. 06. 2012 14:45


phantom3553

it probably can't use guns 5" above

  • Re : -lvl 21 X2 5.9"/48 TBK SK C/36-T

    06. 06. 2012 14:57


OttoReinhold

Originally Posted by phantom3553

it probably can't use guns 5" above


Yeah probably. I didn't bother to try it. Classed my pilots as Rookies anyway at lvl25.

Still think it's strange, that there is an invisible requirement.  

  • Re : -lvl 21 X2 5.9"/48 TBK SK C/36-T

    06. 06. 2012 15:29


mako089

Actually if you have a look at the components list here  on NF.com - even the most basic guns are classified as operated by sailor or armaments.  I think the ones you were able to use were the sailor ones and the level 21s fall under armaments.

  • Re : -lvl 21 X2 5.9"/48 TBK SK C/36-T

    06. 06. 2012 15:38


OttoReinhold

Originally Posted by mako089

Actually if you have a look at the components list here  on NF.com - even the most basic guns are classified as operated by sailor or armaments.  I think the ones you were able to use were the sailor ones and the level 21s fall under armaments.


Hm, according to that sheet there is no double barrel turret, that could be operated by a sailor not classed as armament at least. But my special forces sailors could use several double barrel turrets from that list. Something is bogus here.

  • Re : -lvl 21 X2 5.9"/48 TBK SK C/36-T

    06. 06. 2012 17:50


mako089

Well we've known for years that the info in game and on websites etc do not always match.  Perhaps the simplest way to look at it is, you are trying to use sailors that aren't really specialized in that field so any gun you can use is a bonus.

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