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  • again zgl

    03. 29. 2020 12:33


lindsay

how is it possible that this fleet will win us a port with 3 bb that they had with 10 of us 15 minutes from finishing the hd. without skytrain we were gaining the port and it appears that we lost .... we demand an explanation from the gm .... that they explain to us how this is possible .... it is in sight and there are images that prove that it is impossible unless they use hack ....

 

  • Re : again zgl

    04. 02. 2020 17:33


katzerich

Originally Posted by barryaxl

Se dice mucho por parte en las LEYES DEL JUEGO pero se hace nada en realidad.
Esto no es novedad mi estimado solo queda seguir disfrutando de este bello juego.

 

heyho!

 

no!

 

if GM dont do their job

community has to do it!

 

if not becoming better and "some" fleets think they can play with own rules

then

let them play - but dont play with them!
boycott them!

 

no attack, especially no defence!

 

maybe some time they realize what is happening

hard weeks maybe, but otherwise no change!

 

i believe there are enough members with honor in that "fleets" to start a discussion internally - revolution or leave

 

thats only method

 

quarantine them !

 

they can us tell then , if they are back to community again

 

other way game is dying - because of this bullshit

HA no fun anymore

many players only come back to play when HA are...

no HA...no playerbase on the long run

 

my 2 cents

katzerich

  • Re : again zgl

    04. 19. 2020 04:18


Aranicar

@lindsay

Lol, you complained several weeks ago.  We felt bad for you and supported you.  Now, you used skytrain exploits--skytrain boarder bug--to win KM harbor with 6 min left.  Is cheating the norm now in HA even in your fleet?  Is it that important to win? 

  • Re : again zgl

    04. 19. 2020 04:36


osn3179

Originally Posted by Aranicar

@lindsay

Lol, you complained several weeks ago.  We felt bad for you and supported you.  Now, you used skytrain exploits--skytrain boarder bug--to win KM harbor with 6 min left.  Is cheating the norm now in HA even in your fleet?  Is it that important to win? 

When a child is powerless, cries out loud and really wants to get a toy, he can resort to any fraud to get it. The Chileans in Hamburg behaved something like this today: they won several intermediate fights with the help of the APA raid beyond the lower border of the map, while the harbor battle was carried out by skytrains outside the upper border of the map, Khinox player played role of buguser on CV. I am funny and sorry for those people who are willing to commit any violation and crime for the sake of their long-awaited "sweetie."

Although, I have information that the Chileans just gave several of their accounts to players from Omegas, who used the exploit in the harbor. If this is true, then Chileans are doubly idiots. By the fact that they well know who Omegas are and how they use bugs. Nevertheless, they allow them to play on their accounts and use the exploit to the detriment of the reputation of Chilie fleet.

  • Re : again zgl

    04. 19. 2020 04:58


lindsay

When I complained and bothered with the Chinese it was because they beat us improperly and without arriving at the port without damaging it, I mean, with respect to errors, these do have to be done and I have not complained ... in the week they even told me with messages that ra not only had 15 players so this week I did not work asking for assistance in the fleet to make it more even .... I never thought that the bamf would help them and they had a full room or almost. ... if they had told me at first that they would help them, they would gather people and thus we arrived before a port ... if a fleet goes through a port it is to win ... especially us, I am sorry that they have bothered about the way, but they will understand that with fewer ships we had to try to win .... if you have problems because of the way, talk to whoever you have to do to avoid those mistakes ... greetings ... now for next week, be honest and say yes They are going to attack him and help them again so I work in the week and we gather people ... greetings ...

  • Re : again zgl

    04. 19. 2020 05:15


Aranicar

Originally Posted by lindsay

When I complained and bothered with the Chinese it was because they beat us improperly and without arriving at the port without damaging it, I mean, with respect to errors, these do have to be done and I have not complained ... in the week they even told me with messages that ra not only had 15 players so this week I did not work asking for assistance in the fleet to make it more even .... I never thought that the bamf would help them and they had a full room or almost. ... if they had told me at first that they would help them, they would gather people and thus we arrived before a port ... if a fleet goes through a port it is to win ... especially us, I am sorry that they have bothered about the way, but they will understand that with fewer ships we had to try to win .... if you have problems because of the way, talk to whoever you have to do to avoid those mistakes ... greetings ... now for next week, be honest and say yes They are going to attack him and help them again so I work in the week and we gather people ... greetings ...

Not sure if you understand the situation. . . If you use skytrain, the desyn skytrain will damage and take the harbor . . .  and at the end of one HT game, the harbor health can be full, then you start the next game with harbor damaged because of this desyn . . . or you have full harbor health and you suddenly lose because the harbor health drops to zero in one player's screen, not your screen but one of the 30+ players' computers . . . They seem to be the same bug to me. . . 

I am not complaining because RA KM harbor is none of my business. . .  I heard what happened. . . saw the video. . . there was a cv going to the top right corner with 10 min left. . . the game suddenly ended at 6 min. . . I only hate to see the bug using is spreading in HA. . . And, by your argument, everyone can use bugs when they want to win. . . This is exactly what I want to avoid. . . If not, you kill HA play in this game. 

  • Re : again zgl

    04. 19. 2020 05:17


osn3179

Originally Posted by lindsay

When I complained and bothered with the Chinese it was because they beat us improperly and without arriving at the port without damaging it, I mean, with respect to errors, these do have to be done and I have not complained ... in the week they even told me with messages that ra not only had 15 players so this week I did not work asking for assistance in the fleet to make it more even .... I never thought that the bamf would help them and they had a full room or almost. ... if they had told me at first that they would help them, they would gather people and thus we arrived before a port ... if a fleet goes through a port it is to win ... especially us, I am sorry that they have bothered about the way, but they will understand that with fewer ships we had to try to win .... if you have problems because of the way, talk to whoever you have to do to avoid those mistakes ... greetings ... now for next week, be honest and say yes They are going to attack him and help them again so I work in the week and we gather people ... greetings ...

What??? What nonsense, it's just awful ...

There are more than 70 people in RA, what does BAMF have to do with it?)))

This is the stupidest excuse you can hear.

You came to fight for the harbor, we gave you the opportunity to enjoy a team game for 2 hours. You had a superior advantage in ships, you had more BB7 and BB6.5, an equal number of players. You got a battle in the harbor for more than an hour, spent 3 battles. What more do you need? Why are you using an exploit if there were all the conditions for a normal quality battle? What did you prove to whom? Do you think you have proven your playing skills? You have proved to everyone that you are incapable of anything.

I'm shocked by your delirium ... Half Omegas plays for Chile, and he complains that too many RA players defended the harbor))) This is childish madness. Do you want me to defend the harbor alone?)) Well, come next time to attack the PVP harbor, but then you will never capture it at all.

 

  • Re : again zgl

    04. 19. 2020 07:23


Genera

Originally Posted by osn3179

What??? What nonsense, it's just awful ...

There are more than 70 people in RA, what does BAMF have to do with it?)))

This is the stupidest excuse you can hear.

You came to fight for the harbor, we gave you the opportunity to enjoy a team game for 2 hours. You had a superior advantage in ships, you had more BB7 and BB6.5, an equal number of players. You got a battle in the harbor for more than an hour, spent 3 battles. What more do you need? Why are you using an exploit if there were all the conditions for a normal quality battle? What did you prove to whom? Do you think you have proven your playing skills? You have proved to everyone that you are incapable of anything.

I'm shocked by your delirium ... Half Omegas plays for Chile, and he complains that too many RA players defended the harbor))) This is childish madness. Do you want me to defend the harbor alone?)) Well, come next time to attack the PVP harbor, but then you will never capture it at all.

 



It's not your business if Flota Chilena use external support from any fleet or not. You perfectly know that YOU personally used played on spare accounts in BAMF fleet as a RA player so if you insist that someone is so weak he needs help in harbor games then at least look at your fleetmates and be fair in your statements. Being such a hypocrite doesn't solve anything either. The thread was about the chinese ZGL fleet, so if you are not a chinese (i guess rather not) stop posting here and go do your duty.
BTW, speaking of bugusing or hacking i will only mention that det_ka left the RA due to RA using 3rd party hacking software in NF. Not that any bugusing or hacking would be a fair play but at least bugusing still seems legal since the GM has done absolutely nothing about your complaints in tickets and in kupai forums.

  • Re : again zgl

    04. 19. 2020 08:38


osn3179

Originally Posted by Genera

It's not your business if Flota Chilena use external support from any fleet or not. You perfectly know that YOU personally used played on spare accounts in BAMF fleet as a RA player so if you insist that someone is so weak he needs help in harbor games then at least look at your fleetmates and be fair in your statements. Being such a hypocrite doesn't solve anything either. The thread was about the chinese ZGL fleet, so if you are not a chinese (i guess rather not) stop posting here and go do your duty.

BTW, speaking of bugusing or hacking i will only mention that det_ka left the RA due to RA using 3rd party hacking software in NF. Not that any bugusing or hacking would be a fair play but at least bugusing still seems legal since the GM has done absolutely nothing about your complaints in tickets and in kupai forums.

Kurwa, as one of the leaders of the RA fleet, I officially declare to you that det_ka was expelled from the RA for theft and sale of sailors from accounts of RA players. Moreover, this person had access to dozens of accounts from other fleets and also plundered them. Det_ka can tell you how he flew to the moon and brought the fragment of Apollo 17 from there, I won’t be surprised at that, I know perfectly well what the limit of lies is for this bastard. If you yourself, at least a little thought your head, you would understand how absurd your thesis is: "to leave RA due to the use of bugs and use bugs yourself in Ultras   for 5 years now." 

I’m also wondering why det_ka in whatsapp says that “Kurapika will cover up any Omegas fraud and if necessary personally answer on the website on behalf of TeamNF the players’s request for using bugs. And that Vinnson knows about the whole story with bugs, he covers them too ..." I’m very interested to know if this is true.

I wonder what kind of accounts are you crucifying about if BAMF and RA are in an official alliance? My main account is in BAMF, my second account on which I play since 2012 is in RA. And where is your account, what do you play for the Chilean fleet?

I don’t care what the topic was about if Chilie uses bugs to attack the harbor and complains about the use of these bugs against them by the Chinese. It doesn’t matter to me that the Chileans themselves have gone down to the level of scammers and are using bugs during the HA or have invited recidivists from Omegas / Ultras to their accounts for fraud. We don’t set aside time on Saturday night to watch a bunch of vile losers destroys the game and break the rules, instead of an honest team battle. If you do not know how to play as a team and noobs by nature, then sit at home and play Tetris, there is no need to think much. Hypocrisy is to create a topic on the forum accusing the Chinese of unfair play and after 2 weeks use the exploit themselves to capture the harbor. If victory for you with bugs is normal, then I have nothing to talk about with you, you are a fraudster, a bug user and a bastard, there can be no other relationship. Either respect those who spend time and come here in the role of your adversary, or play with yourself or against det_ka. Practice which of you is more professional in using exploit to win.

  • Re : again zgl

    04. 19. 2020 10:55


Sidumbledore

@Genera:  The topic is about using bugs (either intentionally or unintentionally).  Don't you agree that it is ironic for someone to post this "again zgl" thread on losing a harbor because of a bug, but after several weeks, his fleet used a bug on another fleet in HA to win?  It is not about fleet alliance nor who is helping whom.  If you read OSN3197 posting carefully, OSN3197 pointed out (or suspected) that someone from Ultra (who used similar bugs against BAMF and ZGL in the past) was using Chilena accounts to do the same to RA in today KM HA.  Here, I said ZGL was a victim, and this is also ironic because some ZGL players complained in the Chinese forum that Ultra used bugs to capture MN from them several weeks ago. 

 

@OSN3197:  Yes, there is always a double standard.  When Chilena lost a harbor due to a bug after hard HA fighting, to them, the other party was at fault.  When Chilena used a similar bug to win HA today, it is ok because there is a reason (because they were fighting a full RA force or because they expected to win).  What Lindsay said is that they did not expect RA to defend.  They prefer to capture an empty harbor.  Maybe, to them, capturing a give away harbor in 20 min is supposed to be more fun than 2 hours of HA battles.  I did not follow all his explanations.

 

In my opinion, all of us should take a step back and look at this objectively.  Do we want HA to be a game that can be won by whoever is willing to use exploits?  Ask yourself that if you have tried hard to play and feel that you have done a good job and then the other team uses a bug to exploit the game and change the outcome.  Is this how we want HA to be?  I am talking about intentionally using bugs here (like out of border APA and skytrain).  There are other suspected bugs that cannot be proven. 

I still remember in the old days that capturing a harbor is not that important (e.g., when there was a major crash, the other team would ask if a restart is needed) so both sides can enjoy a good battle.  When a fleet won, it was good.  When a fleet lost, it was a good battle and the fleet lost as a team and would improve.  Now, fleets rather want to use bugs to capture harbors, what a completely different atmosphere.  Sigh. . .

  • Re : again zgl

    04. 19. 2020 16:13


bestofchill

@genera




BAMF+RA= WE are now 1 fleet.  SO we have good number´s online for good fight.
+ 5 PPL from OSP because they don´t play HA/HD´s and they guys wanna have fun.

OMEGA and CHile play Together and is cool so they have good number´s too.
Nobody want boring HA/HD vs 10 Player´s

@ALL
But pls don´t do it fair. 


Let´s play fair here.... we are just 4 fleets (without chinese) playing HA/HD´s.

BAMF OMEGA CHILE OSP.

APA exploit....... MAIN vs MAIN ...uhh i lost!! ok i go with apa offborder and save the time...WIN.

WOW... so many good player´s and u need use it.



SAme the big Desyc in HA/HD.... idk for me using Skytrains and this game is still down.
Omega say they have same problems with mines....

Than let´s stop it.



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