I AGREE 100%!!

what kind of pot you smoking? i said sub supremacist not white supremacist. also i promote harmony. mix race and co-existence if you dont understand english. i spoke of teamplay yes but winrate is mostly because i won those myself when my team is useless. i had to play bb3-5 to carry people like you in bb6 just so you know. 

true im not at your level. im actually above your level. 

im not insulting but if you take it as an insult then perhaps your mind need some programming. it decodes banter as insult. or probably just something you smoked. 

lawl at subs being "underpowered" ive spent many of games being chased completely across the map by smoke spamming subs unable to kill them even though they are clearly being outplayed. remove smoke from SS and watch 90% of SS players stop playing them. Yes its a viable tactic like all BBs who dump smoke like a chain smoke. however this isnt something that should be biased towards subs. they get the advantage of being impervious to damage when no sonar man is present or HHs. which a fair amount of BBs do not carry HHs. However i think HHs need balancing in the amount of physical damage they do on contact. but as far as splash damage goes maybe a tiny nerf to splash radius/ damage. But removal of the only defense BBs have against SS is a crippling blow to BBs. also BBs in this game (like 90% of all naval games) act as damage sponges and damage dealers. that doesnt make them invicible. a BB cant hide under water and avoid damage. and unlike an SS a BB cant spot for its team without being spotted itself. SS are fine as they stad( id shoot for a small speed cap nerf of 1-2knts over all) but SS are a high skill cap class and require careful gameplay to not get nuked out of existence (as they are in real life). Now if a armored up escort is the problem either A sink them or B dont. if its got a sonarman on it then again A sink it or B dont. if you realize the Charle has an escort then hes probably got a sonarman so would it be wise to target him first? answer is no. go for the BB thats alone/ without escort. careful gameplay is rewarded and people bum rush in SS and will go till their air is out trying to sink escorts will get a bad result an SS becomes more deadly as the game goes on.

All focus on whether the submarines are underpowered or underpowered, a subject long debated and discussed, and none makes mention of the unrealistic use of the secondary slots of the BB and CV.

Gentlemen, historically and during the time in question, the secondary slots, both BB and CV were dedicated to anti-aircraft coverage, leaving their escorts anti-submarine coverage, in the case of BB, and their escorts and torpedo planes in the CV case.

If you consider an aberration the capacity and management of the air, the number of torpedoes of an SS, ..., the total distortion that is given to the secondary slots of BB and CV or the use of sonarman in CV is even greater.

For an SS, the intimidating power of a BB or a CV were not their main weapons (cannons and planes), much less unreal secondary ones, but their escorts. And it is really aberrant to have to use almost the same torpedoes to sink a bulged APA (8) as a BB or CV.

The one with the submarine, the torpedoes and their stealth.

Some say that a BB cannot escape the harassment of an SS, that it cannot disappear, that it cannot sink, ignoring the fact that it has speed and overhead, better damage recovery and better overhead recovery.

Assuming that anyone can teach you something new at any given time, do you think that you don't try to eliminate the escort in the first place? Now answer me, how do you do when they detect you being out of the range of your torpedoes under the unreal rain of HH that the BB throws at you, also out of your range?

46 thousand games of studies, tests, different tactics, learning from those who subs are harder or more skilled, the movements of each player, how that or another BB plays, the movement of that potentially dangerous ff or dd, to observe the tempo of the game, to anticipate their movements, when to roll or retreat, how to play with each sub and how to play against each sub, to observe the "Russian subs school" (betep, vampir85, begi76, I_bon, hitachi88, ...........), to see altsein, greenmarine, marineq, aircraftcarrier play with the ss6 km, weberusa with the rm.

Do you take people for fools?