Nice calculations. If you demonstrate it like this in your guide people will understand it (hopefully). Also going from your calculations you can see, that with a 12/12 rep/rest sailor you could get even better results. I admit though, that sailors with stats like that are not easy to get.

Anyways, good effort for the community on your part.

Can anyone corroborate this? I've heard that BOs affect torpedo spotting it in quite a few different places, so if it's untrue I'd like to be certain of that before changing it. It's not a huge deal to correct quickly, because the guide advises against putting sailors on your BO anyways.


No sonar man = 1.5 pips of sight underwater.
No sonar TA on your sonar man = 8.5 pips.

Is there somewhere in the guide that this is misleading? I checked it over but I don't see any confusing language. I will make a note that not having a sonar man renders you blind, though, since this wasn't mentioned before.

Also, I don't understand what you mean to say by putting "precision" in front of that inaccurate and contradictory statement (How does underwater sight include surface sight?). Is this a language barrier issue?


That's far too subjective an opinion to put in a guide. The rear tube is for torpedoing things that are behind you. I leave it as exercise for the readers to determine why things are behind them.

Done, thanks. That was one of those "what to do, but not why to do it" explanations. The draft version of the guide was written a little while ago as a post in another thread, so that was a leftover. I probably wrote it that way to save time knowing that if the person had any questions, they'd ask.

I honestly don't care if you like me or not. What I posted was a fact, and why it needed to be worked on make sure everything on it was factual and complete. If that bothers you, why are you making a guide?




Its easily seen. Are you spotting torps any earlier by yourself at lvl 120 compared to at lvl 60? Spotting torps earlier is Finder FCS speciality, and it got a fixed spotting range in the stats.



No. what I meant is precise the fact that sonar doesnt only rule underwater detection, but also, when submerged, the visual of the surface you are giving. an SS that has no sonar gives less visual around the ship than a local fighter.



Thats not as subjectives as you might think to point out advantages and disadvantages of a rear torp. You are telling people : 2nd torper or addtionnal support. Bring in points advantages and disadvantages of both setup.

Obviously, rear tubes are for torpedoing things behind you. But what does it help in game, for a new player reading this? What situation where that rear tubes will mainly be used?

Is it just a small extra shot when you are between 2 BBs?



Taking a subjective point of view would be lobbying for a certain setup, and even tough its not bad per say, I understand you want to stay objective. Thats fine, you are objective if you list quickly whats the advantage of taking a 2nd torper for ther ear tubes, or an extra rep?





Something I noticed in game too:

I can't tell for KM SS12, but KM SS3 doesnt have a gun anymore, it got a 360 degree single torp launcher, ship based style.

http://i55.tinypic.com/xbxu6v.jpg



*Edited to add the screenshot since I hid the post where this was posted, and it's relevant - Ny*

ss4 has one fore, and 2 aft ^_^

Fixed, thank you.

I'm not sure what happened there, I checked that against trainworld when I wrote it, and I still got it wrong. Copy editing ftw.

Thanks for the confirmation. I've revised the BO section.