Re : SN SS5
10. 15. 2011 13:50

Wulfman

Originally Posted by richardphat

- Certain SS needs to be harder to speedcap as well that includes lower tier.

- With respect, I am shocked when you call yourself beta tester, and start complaining why you can't speedcap yet and consider it as a nerf.

Now it has nothing to do with the topic.

Seriously 3 engineers only 2 SN and 1 USN? With no offense, but that isn't great support and should not even be called support for sub especially we're talking about SS5.

What are you doing when the Gato has 5 total support slots and 3 remaining?
What are you doing when the D class has 5 support slots, 2 takeout from sonar and planesman? What about the 1 left?
Did you bother retraining?

You missunderstood or didnt read, I played this game on and off since first betaversion many years ago. From the very beginning sort of speak.

With 3 (5) supportslots is should be enough with 2 eng + 1 rep. Tweaking the sub and force them to run with 3 engys is wrong beacause rep i also one important factor in sub. Since you hitcapspeed easily with one engy in cachalot it´s wrong to requrie 2 in SS5.

Maybe we should force BB5 to have all supportslots filled with engys if they want to hit capspeed ?

Get the picture, we compare 8 supportslots with 3.

Is it right that a SS4 sub should outtrun and outurn an SS5 ?

Did you try ss4 vs ss5 your self ?

ps. only logical explanation is that a nerf will come on ss3-4.

Re : SN SS5
10. 15. 2011 15:26

Happymeal2

Originally Posted by Wulfman

Originally Posted by richardphat

- Certain SS needs to be harder to speedcap as well that includes lower tier.

- With respect, I am shocked when you call yourself beta tester, and start complaining why you can't speedcap yet and consider it as a nerf.

Now it has nothing to do with the topic.

Seriously 3 engineers only 2 SN and 1 USN? With no offense, but that isn't great support and should not even be called support for sub especially we're talking about SS5.

What are you doing when the Gato has 5 total support slots and 3 remaining?
What are you doing when the D class has 5 support slots, 2 takeout from sonar and planesman? What about the 1 left?
Did you bother retraining?

You missunderstood or didnt read, I played this game on and off since first betaversion many years ago. From the very beginning sort of speak.

With 3 (5) supportslots is should be enough with 2 eng + 1 rep. Tweaking the sub and force them to run with 3 engys is wrong beacause rep i also one important factor in sub. Since you hitcapspeed easily with one engy in cachalot it´s wrong to requrie 2 in SS5.

Maybe we should force BB5 to have all supportslots filled with engys if they want to hit capspeed ?

Get the picture, we compare 8 supportslots with 3.

Is it right that a SS4 sub should outtrun and outurn an SS5 ?

Did you try ss4 vs ss5 your self ?

ps. only logical explanation is that a nerf will come on ss3-4.

All of your posts in this thread come down to one thing:

BUFF MY SHIP!!!

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Re : SN SS5
10. 15. 2011 20:30

GHHalley

His point is not "buff my ship", but his point is make the higher level ships worthwhile. You don't spend a year getting your men up to a higher level of ship just to have it be less effective than the previous ship.

This is about encouraging players to keep playing and developing the game as a whole.

The problem with nerfing the lower subs is that they have to still be fun to have people develop into higher level SS players. Its not like subs can do Blitz to grow the first 60 levels. They have to compete against the BBs and CVs from day one or bring up a sonar and planesman on a surface ship and then BO reset.

I do believe we will see some sort of adjustment from Navyfield eventually. Got to believe the lower SS5's is making room for SS6's. Maybe the key is to look at SS3 and SS4 and see about reducing them slightly. I would hate to see the SS1 or 2's getting nerfed.

Re : SN SS5
10. 15. 2011 21:10

Happymeal2

Originally Posted by GHHalley

His point is not "buff my ship", but his point is make the higher level ships worthwhile. You don't spend a year getting your men up to a higher level of ship just to have it be less effective than the previous ship.

This is about encouraging players to keep playing and developing the game as a whole.

The problem with nerfing the lower subs is that they have to still be fun to have people develop into higher level SS players. Its not like subs can do Blitz to grow the first 60 levels. They have to compete against the BBs and CVs from day one or bring up a sonar and planesman on a surface ship and then BO reset.

I do believe we will see some sort of adjustment from Navyfield eventually. Got to believe the lower SS5's is making room for SS6's. Maybe the key is to look at SS3 and SS4 and see about reducing them slightly. I would hate to see the SS1 or 2's getting nerfed.

You're right you dont spend a year, more like 2 weeks.

They are fun. Its just about doing it right.

Youll see it adjusted. As in rebalanced. It

Re : SN SS5
10. 17. 2011 15:27

richardphat

If you're implying that higher tier ship should be faster/keep being fast, because they have better support, technology, or all the reason you can bring.

Sry, but the game balance will just fail just like in world of tanks such as certain medium tanks clearly OP.

About cachalot
You never bother question yourself if it's not the SS3/4 instead that is wrong and not SS5?

Edit for keyword.

Edit2.
Also forget to add, yes, the whole SS is broken.

Re : SN SS5
10. 18. 2011 07:27

Wulfman	Its funny when some ppl comment on a sub they never even tried. SN SS5

Re : SN SS5
10. 19. 2011 12:14

hiroito

-SS ARE ALL BROKEN.
-BBs NEED speed and guns.
-SS are Broken.
-SS5 got better dive time, better torps, and better engine.
-SS are Broken.
- Wait, since when SS are supposed to even get close to "OMG900SDLOLOLOLOLOLOL"? Or "OMG1KDAMAGEREPAIREDPERSECONDLOLOLOLOLOLOL"? Why bother using repairers? If you don't get good speed with repairers, then switch the configuration and use only engineers.
-SS ARE BROKEN!.
-SS4 can go faster, but SS5 can go at OH for longer.
-SS ARE ALL BROKEN!!!!11!!!!"332!!!

Re : SN SS5
10. 19. 2011 21:32

Cao_Cao	i don't have any issue with the speed ... with 3 good and right level engie, i can reach oh speed 40 but torps damage still very weak, and it become worst with low hit rate and slow reload .... ironic, i have bb5 in front of as a clean target in front of me but can't do anything

Re : SN SS5
10. 20. 2011 04:19

phillipM

Originally Posted by hiroito

-SS ARE ALL BROKEN.
-BBs NEED speed and guns.
-SS are Broken.
-SS5 got better dive time, better torps, and better engine.
-SS are Broken.
- Wait, since when SS are supposed to even get close to "OMG900SDLOLOLOLOLOLOL"? Or "OMG1KDAMAGEREPAIREDPERSECONDLOLOLOLOLOLOL"? Why bother using repairers? If you don't get good speed with repairers, then switch the configuration and use only engineers.
-SS ARE BROKEN!.
-SS4 can go faster, but SS5 can go at OH for longer.
-SS ARE ALL BROKEN!!!!11!!!!"332!!!

some one hates subs?

Re : SN SS5
10. 20. 2011 15:08

heatrr	Originally Posted by Wulfman Is it right that a SS4 sub should outtrun and outurn an SS5 ? Nope, apparently the one not keeping up with the reading is yourself given you fail miserably to understand that SS4 and below have not been balanced....hence why your SS5 is outrun and out-turned by an SS4. =.=

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