Originally Posted by Challen76
Masc - You should really try adding something to the conversation next time.
Oh and Phat - You want info? Check it from your old friend Mumito from the old forums.
*********************Mumito said:
08.08.07:
- SS1 implemented
08.09.11:
- When retreating, the submarines are not able to change the Dive status.
- Submarines are not able to sail during Critical Dive.
08.09.18:
- SS dive mode speed decreased.
08.09.24:
- SS2 implemented.
08.10.09:
- DC range underwater increased (decreased on the surface).
- DC explosion time reduced from 6 to 4 seconds.
09.01.08:
- FF's/DD's detect submerged subs without sonarman.
- CV's are able to use sonarman.
09.01.14:
- Repair speed reduced to 30% when sub is submerged.
- Planesman is required to carry 90%+ sailors in order to work at all.
09.02.05:
- FF's (neutral ships) can use sonarmen (classed sailors).
09.02.11:
- SS3 implemented.
- DC damage increased.
09.02.25:
- SS speed limited to 40 knots.
09.03.05:
- SS are not able to use smoke during diving status.
09.05.28:
- Hedgehogs implemented.
There were some more nerfs that were not announced (or I missed the
announcements):
- Air refill time has been capped at 60 seconds.
- Sub torps dud rate has been increaed.
- Sonarman visibility range when submerged was decreased significantly (comparing
Adalbert's guide data with current range).
There are also some "natural" nerfes:
- Expert gain is nonexistant (gained 2 experts after 60 battles last 3 days, using
torpedoes and deck gun),
- Sub crew has "no future" and gains exp extremely low due to level difference
penalty (capped at about 8,5k for my crew now).
- Sub can only take part in Great Battles or sub wars, no Night Mode, Blitzkrieg,
Convoys.
Alot of those are just fixes, not entirely nerfs plus:
-Using torps will almost never get you experts, jump in a AA boat if you want em or pay for them out of your own pocket
-The sub exp is due to torp exp being switched from earned to completely shared exp
-Subs can only join certain rooms because those rooms were implemented before subs were implemented, along with that subs would seriously throw things out of balance in certain rooms such as blitz (And convoy has been broken for years now, why would you even include it?)