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  • KM H44 more nerfed?, No !!! finally a solution !!!!

    05. 08. 2012 11:18


Mezak76

I read in a test server discussion that KM guns for H44 will possible change... for worst, or maybe I´m reading wrong.

I mean, read that will have lower angles, lower damage, more shell weight.

I post this to for all KM comunity to be warning, because maybe i´m understanding in a wrong way, or KM will not have the range advantage any more.

If there is anyone that can  see this post and give us all some good news would be great.
here is the link.
https://fm.en.navyfield.com/Community/Forum/View.aspx?num=8764&searchtype=0&pagecount=0&searchvalue=&sort=5&category=C03&page1=1  

EDIT:
After read all information available about this topic I decided to change the subject of this post, because it can generate some kind of alarm in KM players.
Thanks to Richard for all the effort and time that he is investing in solve the damage problems that H44 really have.
I hope to try the new guns in live server soon.

 

  • Re : KM H44 more nerfed?, No !!! finally a solution !!!!

    05. 16. 2012 18:07


IcedBroom_

Originally Posted by Zorb

Richard has made it his personal crusade to get the H44 guns fixed fo a long time now.  Why it has taken SDE so many years to even bother to assist is totally absurd and baffleing.

It would be fun to play a proper H44 that meets out consistent damage, although we will still probably get run down by that freakin Italian pocket BB7...heh.



bb7??? What bb7 do you mean that VERY OVERPOWERED RM bb4? If you do then yah i agree with yah -_-. Even if the h44 guns get more dmg it won't matter if we can't hit that small dumb VERY OP rm bb4-_-

  • Re : KM H44 more nerfed?, No !!! finally a solution !!!!

    05. 17. 2012 05:59


phantom3553

i see that there are changes,

 

the 16.5" will be change to 20" and will be the 110 guns

 

while the 18" will be the new lvl 100 guns...

 

what about the range or betterness of the new changed guns, is it still lvl 100 > lvl 110?

  • Re : KM H44 more nerfed?, No !!! finally a solution !!!!

    05. 24. 2012 07:04


Nighthawk290

Hello friends of NF

Plays Primarily NF on Bismarck server of NFEU. Now and again also here.
Was sometimes after long zeit again on your test server of NFNA. To look sometimes what gives with the so new. Whether what has changed in the ships.

Because I also play the nation KM on NFEU, thus some things have immediately struck me which have fehler.

If we have a look now sometimes to the following values sometimes:

Guns:

current KM level 100 guns
KM Lvl 100 x2 16.5 ' C SK/48 / 40: Shell weight: 1060-> 1518
KM Lvl 100 x2 16.5 ' C SK/48 / 40: Accuracy: 2
KM Lvl 100 x2 16.5 ' C SK/48 / 40: Caliber: 16.5-> 20
KM Lvl 100 x2 20 ' C SK/48 / 40: Required level: 100-> 110

current KM level 110 guns
KM Lvl 110 x2 18 '/45 C SK / 34: Shell weight: 1100-> in 1745
KM Lvl 110 x2 18 '/45 C SK / 34: Gun fishes: 37-> 30
KM Lvl 110 x2 18 '/45 C SK / 34: HEY damage: In 1700-> 1300
KM Lvl 110 x2 18 '/45 C SK / 34: Muzzle Velocity: 891-> 906
KM Lvl 110 x2 18 '/45 C SK / 34: Accuracy: 3
KM Lvl 110 x2 18 '/45 C SK / 34: Required level: 110-> 100

The first mistake, Shell weight.
It cannot be which is lighter 20 ' Inch Shell, than 18 ' Inch Shell.

Comparisons here both Shells.
Here one should exchange both values

The second mistake, mouth speed.
This should be lowered for 18 Inch Gun down.

The third mistake, tower weight.
It cannot do his 20 ' Inch tower is lighter, how 18 ' Inch tower.
Here one should exchange only the values together.

Here simply my suggestion to the single Guns with the new values.

Nation KM level 100 Gun
LVL 100 x2 18"/45 SK  C/34
Tower weight in tone 4806,000 t
Req. Space (space) 477
Muzzle Velocity in m/sec: 825
Reload speed in time: 18.48 sec
Max Winkel in degree: 37
Shell: 18" Inch
Weight of the shell: 1400 kg
HE Offensiv: 1630

Nation LM level 110 Gun
LVL 110 x2 20" /48 SK C/40     

Tower weight in tone: 4950,000 t

Req. Space (space): 477
Muzzle Velocity in m/sec: 906
Reload speed in time: 19.96 sec
Max Winkel in degree: 37
Shell: 20" Inch
Weight of the shell: 1600 kg
HE  Offensiv: 1850

Would @ other images has as it should be changed, can put down here sometimes his values. If he means which is moved the H44 then so better.

  • Re : KM H44 more nerfed?, No !!! finally a solution !!!!

    05. 26. 2012 20:05


hispeedz99

Nighthawke, IIRC the Iowa 16" had a special shell design that made the shells far heavier than was the usual (almost as much as the Yamato 18.1")...  It isn't like the shells for the 18" and 20" can't have similar properties...

  • Re : KM H44 more nerfed?, No !!! finally a solution !!!!

    05. 26. 2012 23:46


pincuishin2

i just tested out the 100s and 110s and its sad 110 have less range..

 

  • Re : KM H44 more nerfed?, No !!! finally a solution !!!!

    05. 28. 2012 13:13


richardphat

Forget the mechanic vs real life logic, this game doesn't have  to turn into a world of fail tank.

In fact, if it works and fix the H44, no question should be ask.



@above, further the 100 has worse spread than the 110. You should take that into account when you check the spread, nominal range.

Because right now, the 110 has way better spread obviously.

  • Re : KM H44 more nerfed?, No !!! finally a solution !!!!

    05. 28. 2012 16:48


V2CxBongRipz

Originally Posted by pincuishin2

i just tested out the 100s and 110s and its sad 110 have less range..

 

 

Its just like how Nagato guns can outrange 14.96o. Its all about the spread.

  • Re : KM H44 more nerfed?, No !!! finally a solution !!!!

    06. 03. 2012 06:28


Ackbar25

 

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Its just like how Nagato guns can outrange 14.96o. Its all about the spread.

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And how the H39 has montana range...

  • Re : KM H44 more nerfed?, No !!! finally a solution !!!!

    06. 18. 2012 20:02


Mezak76

There is any news about new guns for H44?. That ship is usless, nobody fear H44.

I saw several time many H44 sink with 2 partial salvos from any ohter BB5, most of BB4 any too many BB3 EBB3.

I think H44 deserves a full revision, is far away the worst BB5

  • Re : KM H44 more nerfed?, No !!! finally a solution !!!!

    06. 18. 2012 20:11


Etheryte

Read the test server subforum.

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