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Ninja Patch on SS4?
08. 01. 2011 17:46
joshmon999
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Anyone know if they messed with the SS4's? Or the torps? I never used to get duds on my MN torps, now almost every one duds, its crazy. Also it feels like they nerfed the air on all the ss4, i have KM, IJN, and MN. Wassupwitdat?
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Re : Ninja Patch on SS4?
08. 02. 2011 21:01
Humberto20
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Originally Posted by normpearii
Originally Posted by Humberto20
Originally Posted by ljsevern
Can't wait for the Sub rebalance project.
You mean, Nerfing the submarines until a point they get obsolete, and make SDE costumers who invested hundred of dollars, wasting their money, congratulations Ljserven, for making that happen.
Maybe some of use spent hundreds of dollars into BB and CV crew to get owned by a lvl 70 OP ship that can easily sink a BB6? At least CV6 can load .5 belt and max buldge and get away with it not effecting its play style.
but you cv/bbs dont get as much nerf as ss does, or do you?
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Re : Ninja Patch on SS4?
08. 02. 2011 21:14
Humberto20
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Originally Posted by Rehor
Originally Posted by Humberto20
You mean, Nerfing the submarines until a point they get obsolete, and make SDE costumers who invested hundred of dollars, wasting their money, congratulations Ljserven, for making that happen.
Two points: Only because you have become reliant on overpowered and unbalanced content do you say this. And if you truly have concern over this, come to either of the large discussion areas and produce your own opinions in the proper setting. Bring facts and evidence too, and we shall see how reasonable you truly are.
Of course, i do have concerns for all my time and money invested in the submarines i have. People ask me, why i play all the time with submarines, i respond now:"Submarines, its the only ship class i really like, submarine driver its my carreer in NF, why i dont play bb/cv? i just dont get use to them, i find them boring and lack of interest. Happy now? 1st- Submarines are machine to attack for long range, which is obvious. ASW's are responsible to keep defense and protect Battleships and CVs from underwater enemy forces, just because your defense fails, will you classify it as overpowered? if the person using the submarine, knows what he or she is doing, will you call it overpowered? if he doesnt know how to use it, will you call it, noob? No, Rehor. about the money its A FACT and i do have evidence that there is people, have spent alot of money in their submarines, not just in one, but more than that. Lets see the difference , between ASW vs SS. SS: Strong torpedoes Fast Quick response to HH Limited air limited torpedoes ASW PHH= fast reload Range fast reload time Speed STRONG PHH, capable of killing BB's( and nobody complaints about this ) LONG sonar range NERF HISTORY in submarines: -Speed cap has been nerfed -ability to take damage has been decreased. -Auto miss chance has been increased, dont know how many times, but there was. -uflak gunners damaged has been decreased. this is some of the nerf, now tell me, why more nerf? SUBMARINE CONS: limited displacement we cant take the guns out, as you bb can do. vulnerable to FF/DD/CL/CV cant see mines critical dive damage its too high. why, would you make BB's the only super power machine?
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Re : Ninja Patch on SS4?
08. 02. 2011 21:34
Arrgh
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Humberto20 is right.
Sure.. go ahead and rant because you got sunk by a sub, but also blame your self for speed whoring around and not using that extra unused T slots and displacement to defend yourself through belt and bulge.
Just don't take the rant to the forums in the form of a Sub nerf suggestion, because the overwhelming amount of people who play BB will eat that S*** up and vote yes without even a pause to consider how that effects sub players.
It's simple.. subs are not over powered, not when you come prepared for them.
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Re : Ninja Patch on SS4?
08. 02. 2011 21:47
Gundamx2
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so i'm waiting for the age that everyone is Armor-whoring and with HHs instead of AAs or whatever it supposed to do
let's make the game slow and boring by everyone is waiting for a chance to move forward
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Re : Ninja Patch on SS4?
08. 02. 2011 23:24
ljsevern
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Originally Posted by Humberto20
Originally Posted by Rehor
Originally Posted by Humberto20
You mean, Nerfing the submarines until a point they get obsolete, and make SDE costumers who invested hundred of dollars, wasting their money, congratulations Ljserven, for making that happen.
Two points: Only because you have become reliant on overpowered and unbalanced content do you say this. And if you truly have concern over this, come to either of the large discussion areas and produce your own opinions in the proper setting. Bring facts and evidence too, and we shall see how reasonable you truly are.
Of course, i do have concerns for all my time and money invested in the submarines i have. People ask me, why i play all the time with submarines, i respond now:"Submarines, its the only ship class i really like, submarine driver its my carreer in NF, why i dont play bb/cv? i just dont get use to them, i find them boring and lack of interest. Happy now? 1st- Submarines are machine to attack for long range, which is obvious. ASW's are responsible to keep defense and protect Battleships and CVs from underwater enemy forces, just because your defense fails, will you classify it as overpowered? if the person using the submarine, knows what he or she is doing, will you call it overpowered? if he doesnt know how to use it, will you call it, noob? No, Rehor. about the money its A FACT and i do have evidence that there is people, have spent alot of money in their submarines, not just in one, but more than that. Lets see the difference , between ASW vs SS. SS: Strong torpedoes Fast Quick response to HH Limited air limited torpedoes ASW PHH= fast reload Range fast reload time Speed STRONG PHH, capable of killing BB's( and nobody complaints about this ) LONG sonar range NERF HISTORY in submarines: -Speed cap has been nerfed -ability to take damage has been decreased. -Auto miss chance has been increased, dont know how many times, but there was. -uflak gunners damaged has been decreased. this is some of the nerf, now tell me, why more nerf? SUBMARINE CONS: limited displacement we cant take the guns out, as you bb can do. vulnerable to FF/DD/CL/CV cant see mines critical dive damage its too high. why, would you make BB's the only super power machine?
I have 5 SS4's. Your point is wrong. Furthermore, the highest level sub is 77, taking 4.5million exp. The highest level BB is 120, and those SS4's compete with them. To get to 120, thats 45m Exp. That is why high level ships should be a super power machine. And just because people have been stupid and got 300 vets on their crews when caps exist (or should exist) like yourself, doesn't mean you should autowin. I remember when you used to play BB. Lets just say, I would rather have prideeda. Glad you found an alternative easy mode.
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Re : Ninja Patch on SS4?
08. 02. 2011 23:30
Humberto20
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From what i know, there is no limit for FF/DD/CL/CA.
PCA's can be a excelent ship support BB's with AA support. FF/DD/CL's are excelent to support BB's with ASW.
so why the complaining about this and that, when the main nerf ss authors doesnt think about the other classes can bring alot of potential if they are determined to do so.
Many Months ago, many were saying, that PHH was about to be the ULTIMATE weapon to kill once for all our species, but hey, we still around, are you sure they are not strong enough, or you are not doing enough to do enough for your team? I know, some ASW's guys, that can kill Submarines like me.
And now i ask, why you bb's wants to be the only ingame Heroes, like doing everything and no other classes to be competitive? where is the fun? your only fun is bb vs bb all the time, dude, thats boring. Close Combats are much better, than Longe range hit and run.
Submarines, we are a ship class, and you cannot nerf it everytime you want. Take the challenge or leave it, if you ask for it, you are just decreasing the game's challenge and making it even easier for you.
also, i want to point this: we the subs, we do more than most BIG BB'S AND CV'S cant do, "getting the job done, and make you win"
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Re : Ninja Patch on SS4?
08. 02. 2011 23:34
palesor3
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cant wait for "NO SS" button lol
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Re : Ninja Patch on SS4?
08. 02. 2011 23:34
Humberto20
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Originally Posted by ljsevern
Originally Posted by Humberto20
Originally Posted by Rehor
Originally Posted by Humberto20
You mean, Nerfing the submarines until a point they get obsolete, and make SDE costumers who invested hundred of dollars, wasting their money, congratulations Ljserven, for making that happen.
Two points: Only because you have become reliant on overpowered and unbalanced content do you say this. And if you truly have concern over this, come to either of the large discussion areas and produce your own opinions in the proper setting. Bring facts and evidence too, and we shall see how reasonable you truly are.
Of course, i do have concerns for all my time and money invested in the submarines i have. People ask me, why i play all the time with submarines, i respond now:"Submarines, its the only ship class i really like, submarine driver its my carreer in NF, why i dont play bb/cv? i just dont get use to them, i find them boring and lack of interest. Happy now? 1st- Submarines are machine to attack for long range, which is obvious. ASW's are responsible to keep defense and protect Battleships and CVs from underwater enemy forces, just because your defense fails, will you classify it as overpowered? if the person using the submarine, knows what he or she is doing, will you call it overpowered? if he doesnt know how to use it, will you call it, noob? No, Rehor. about the money its A FACT and i do have evidence that there is people, have spent alot of money in their submarines, not just in one, but more than that. Lets see the difference , between ASW vs SS. SS: Strong torpedoes Fast Quick response to HH Limited air limited torpedoes ASW PHH= fast reload Range fast reload time Speed STRONG PHH, capable of killing BB's( and nobody complaints about this ) LONG sonar range NERF HISTORY in submarines: -Speed cap has been nerfed -ability to take damage has been decreased. -Auto miss chance has been increased, dont know how many times, but there was. -uflak gunners damaged has been decreased. this is some of the nerf, now tell me, why more nerf? SUBMARINE CONS: limited displacement we cant take the guns out, as you bb can do. vulnerable to FF/DD/CL/CV cant see mines critical dive damage its too high. why, would you make BB's the only super power machine?
I have 5 SS4's. Your point is wrong. Furthermore, the highest level sub is 77, taking 4.5million exp. The highest level BB is 120, and those SS4's compete with them. To get to 120, thats 45m Exp. That is why high level ships should be a super power machine. And just because people have been stupid and got 300 vets on their crews when caps exist (or should exist) like yourself, doesn't mean you should autowin. I remember when you used to play BB. Lets just say, I would rather have prideeda. Glad you found an alternative easy mode.
Easy Mode? Are you Serious? Are you even thinking, what you are posting? Do you have any Idea, how long it takes a submarine to reach level 120? BB's are easy Mode in Leveling, submarines, are not. For you information, i dont Auto win all time, i die alot of times, the time i successed, its due to team mistakes, and lack of defenses, which is different. Let me ask, how much experience you get per BB? the max experience i get, even with 150k+ attack, i only get 25k experience without even, but with premium account. About the level, change the level, and problem solved, but dont nerf them.
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Re : Ninja Patch on SS4?
08. 03. 2011 00:49
ljsevern
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Originally Posted by Humberto20
Originally Posted by ljsevern
Originally Posted by Humberto20
Originally Posted by Rehor
Originally Posted by Humberto20
You mean, Nerfing the submarines until a point they get obsolete, and make SDE costumers who invested hundred of dollars, wasting their money, congratulations Ljserven, for making that happen.
Two points: Only because you have become reliant on overpowered and unbalanced content do you say this. And if you truly have concern over this, come to either of the large discussion areas and produce your own opinions in the proper setting. Bring facts and evidence too, and we shall see how reasonable you truly are.
Of course, i do have concerns for all my time and money invested in the submarines i have. People ask me, why i play all the time with submarines, i respond now:"Submarines, its the only ship class i really like, submarine driver its my carreer in NF, why i dont play bb/cv? i just dont get use to them, i find them boring and lack of interest. Happy now? 1st- Submarines are machine to attack for long range, which is obvious. ASW's are responsible to keep defense and protect Battleships and CVs from underwater enemy forces, just because your defense fails, will you classify it as overpowered? if the person using the submarine, knows what he or she is doing, will you call it overpowered? if he doesnt know how to use it, will you call it, noob? No, Rehor. about the money its A FACT and i do have evidence that there is people, have spent alot of money in their submarines, not just in one, but more than that. Lets see the difference , between ASW vs SS. SS: Strong torpedoes Fast Quick response to HH Limited air limited torpedoes ASW PHH= fast reload Range fast reload time Speed STRONG PHH, capable of killing BB's( and nobody complaints about this ) LONG sonar range NERF HISTORY in submarines: -Speed cap has been nerfed -ability to take damage has been decreased. -Auto miss chance has been increased, dont know how many times, but there was. -uflak gunners damaged has been decreased. this is some of the nerf, now tell me, why more nerf? SUBMARINE CONS: limited displacement we cant take the guns out, as you bb can do. vulnerable to FF/DD/CL/CV cant see mines critical dive damage its too high. why, would you make BB's the only super power machine?
I have 5 SS4's. Your point is wrong. Furthermore, the highest level sub is 77, taking 4.5million exp. The highest level BB is 120, and those SS4's compete with them. To get to 120, thats 45m Exp. That is why high level ships should be a super power machine. And just because people have been stupid and got 300 vets on their crews when caps exist (or should exist) like yourself, doesn't mean you should autowin. I remember when you used to play BB. Lets just say, I would rather have prideeda. Glad you found an alternative easy mode.
Easy Mode? Are you Serious? Are you even thinking, what you are posting? Do you have any Idea, how long it takes a submarine to reach level 120? BB's are easy Mode in Leveling, submarines, are not. For you information, i dont Auto win all time, i die alot of times, the time i successed, its due to team mistakes, and lack of defenses, which is different. Let me ask, how much experience you get per BB? the max experience i get, even with 150k+ attack, i only get 25k experience without even, but with premium account. About the level, change the level, and problem solved, but dont nerf them.
Using the experience system being flawed as a justification for a overpowered and broken ship is just stupid. Even SDE agree's, which is why we have been tasked with a SS balance project. Maybe you should play other ship classes than SS to have a more balanced view.
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Re : Ninja Patch on SS4?
08. 03. 2011 01:29
Humberto20
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I ve done that. SS project what? a person in charge of that who hates Sub. Wow, what can we expect from that, a total obsolete nerf? dude, deal with it...it look you make drama for everything, i cant imagine you, as a leader of one country, making complaints, that country B has an overpowered Armed forces, and for that, you make a call, for total disarm.Im not making justification, im just defending, what i ve invested, my money and my time. Im talking to you right now as AN ANGRY COSTUMER.
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