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  • (Poll) Should fighters have the ability to shoot at ships including submarines?

    03. 13. 2015 19:43

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Humberto20

Should fighters have the capability to engage all ship classes? 

Some pros i see about this, for low levels it would help them to get more experience, but obviously bigger ships will have better AA, but for low level fighters, wont be so bad to engage FF DD or some CL. The more damage their fighter inflicts on ships the more experience their pilots will get, but it wont increase the credits. Credits should stay as it is, shooting air down.

Discuss.

This thread lost the point.
Locked. 

 

  • Re : (Poll) Should fighters have the ability to shoot at ships including submarines?

    03. 15. 2015 09:48


Humberto20

Originally Posted by Sidley711

Originally Posted by Humberto20

Originally Posted by ljsevern

Originally Posted by Humberto20

1st- If i wanted to seek attention, i would of have brought strong points and facts. My question is ¿ Where are they? Just because, i stated. I work for another game company, doesnt mean, i am going to share with you. But let me tell you something about it. Since you asked, and with courtesy i will respond you;

- What i do is,  create new ideas. How can benefits the games, the community, the company. Balancing pvp, NPC, units, characters and many other things in general, which is part of the test team.  My salary is 68,000 USD a year. 

I hope that answer your question. I cannot asnwer anything else.

If you want to cite your experience, you cite it properly. I could say that I work for a game company and earn over £100,000 a year. Given that i've posted just as much proof of that as you, and given the previous rants you've gone on, you can see why that is a wild claim.

If you don't want to answer where you work, then we'll feel free to dismiss it as an unsubstanciated claim and another one of your attention seeking attempts at being relevent.

And to be quite honest, your previous experience doesn't matter one bit. The idea is a bad one, for the reasons detailed in this thread. 


Originally Posted by Humberto20

Originally Posted by ljsevern


You brought your personal life up. Either answer the question, or we can assume its you attention seeking again.



and yes, submarines are overpowered.



I don't get your obsession with this. Clearly this isn't a sub thread. Proves my point further.

http://joinblacksun.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3088

http://www.jedifleet.com/smf/index.php?topic=13724.msg228207#msg228207

http://www.jedifleet.com/smf/index.php?topic=13705.0 



Your claiming, my last post obsseses with submarines, eh? Please dont distort my post, i clearly stated and affirmed submarines needs to be reworked. I am not sure, why are you trying to proved something that has been proved long time ago, just willing to waste time, when you could be doing something more constructive.


WTF is happening in this thread. If you guys aren't going to discuss his actual idea can we lock/delete this thread



They asked me to answer their questions, which i am with courtesy. The debate is on, as long they would like to contribute with constructive comments.

  • Re : (Poll) Should fighters have the ability to shoot at ships including submarines?

    03. 15. 2015 09:54


Charizard97

This will NEVER happen the sooner you realize that the better. . .

  • Re : (Poll) Should fighters have the ability to shoot at ships including submarines?

    03. 15. 2015 10:32


Humberto20

Originally Posted by Charizard97

This will NEVER happen the sooner you realize that the better. . .




What part of debate/discussion. Dont you get, do you realize that this thread is not in suggestion, subforum, right?

  • Re : (Poll) Should fighters have the ability to shoot at ships including submarines?

    03. 15. 2015 10:37


ljsevern

Originally Posted by Sidley711

WTF is happening in this thread. If you guys aren't going to discuss his actual idea can we lock/delete this thread



I don't get why he keeps going off topic.

I made some points about his idea, as did Nyer and Norm, and he decides to talk about a mythical pretend job he's got an how it immediately makes our points invalid.

If he's going to claim he's got a job in the gaming industry, then he should prove it if he's using that argument to validate his idea.

Still waiting for him to answer the questions. 

  • Re : (Poll) Should fighters have the ability to shoot at ships including submarines?

    03. 15. 2015 10:39


ljsevern

Originally Posted by Humberto20

Your claiming, my last post obsseses with submarines, eh? Please dont distort my post, i clearly stated and affirmed submarines needs to be reworked. I am not sure, why are you trying to proved something that has been proved long time ago, just willing to waste time, when you could be doing something more constructive.



I don't need to claim. I quoted the post in which you brought it up. I never distorted your post at all. You are just trying to change the subject as you made up a pretend job to attempt to validate your idea which wouldn't be right for the game.

Still waiting for you to say what company you work for. 

  • Re : (Poll) Should fighters have the ability to shoot at ships including submarines?

    03. 15. 2015 11:12


Humberto20

Originally Posted by ljsevern

Originally Posted by Humberto20

Your claiming, my last post obsseses with submarines, eh? Please dont distort my post, i clearly stated and affirmed submarines needs to be reworked. I am not sure, why are you trying to proved something that has been proved long time ago, just willing to waste time, when you could be doing something more constructive.



I don't need to claim. I quoted the post in which you brought it up. I never distorted your post at all. You are just trying to change the subject as you made up a pretend job to attempt to validate your idea which wouldn't be right for the game.

Still waiting for you to say what company you work for. 




How about, you focus in your personal matters and concerns, because what i do outside of Navyfield is none of your business. You have no right to demand to which company, i work for. If you really want to believe i am making this up, thats up to you. I dont really have no problem at all, if you decide to believe i am making things up. I

Again, stay out of my business, and Honestly do you really think, i am going to give it you, knowing what you have done to me in the past, so you can go run to them, and make up stories so they get me out too. Wrong.

You distorted the post where i stated ; Submarines are overpowered.

You brought up certain links from BS sites and 2 links from Jedi site. You were trying to prove that i always liked the submarines, and claiming my obssesion. Which my main point was, to confirm that submarines were overpowered. Is it that hard to understand, and yes it is related, Testing its part of my job, so i did with the submarine with a group of people who are good at testing units, and so far out of 10 people, 3 determined subs were fine and 7 thought they were overpowered, 10 people that had nothing to do with NF. I do hope, that clarify your concerns.

Note: Do me a favor, as i do stay our your business, out of your private life, out of everything you do, please stay out of mine. Unless you have a warrant from the goverment, to search or investgate. Othewise, you have ' 0 ' authority to ask me, about my life outside of navyfield.  

  • Re : (Poll) Should fighters have the ability to shoot at ships including submarines?

    03. 15. 2015 11:45


ljsevern

Originally Posted by Humberto20


How about, you focus in your personal matters and concerns, because what i do outside of Navyfield is none of your business. You have no right to demand to which company, i work for. If you really want to believe i am making this up, thats up to you. I dont really have no problem at all, if you decide to believe i am making things up. I

Again, stay out of my business, and Honestly do you really think, i am going to give it you, knowing what you have done to me in the past, so you can go run to them, and make up stories so they get me out too. Wrong.

You distorted the post where i stated ; Submarines are overpowered.

You brought up certain links from BS sites and 2 links from Jedi site. You were trying to prove that i always liked the submarines, and claiming my obssesion. Which my main point was, to confirm that submarines were overpowered. Is it that hard to understand, and yes it is related, Testing its part of my job, so i did with the submarine with a group of people who are good at testing units, and so far out of 10 people, 3 determined subs were fine and 7 thought they were overpowered, 10 people that had nothing to do with NF. I do hope, that clarify your concerns.

Note: Do me a favor, as i do stay our your business, out of your private life, out of everything you do, please stay out of mine. Unless you have a warrant from the goverment, to search or investgate. Othewise, you have ' 0 ' authority to ask me, about my life outside of navyfield.  



You brought it up:

Originally Posted by Humberto20


Actually, i do. I am currently part of a design-testing team for another gaming company. 
For your last statement, there are alternatives to test new or modify contents, which you should know, a thing called test server, back-up .something if goes wrong, you can just scratch and start over again, without affecting your live server.  



You made this everyones business by posting about it on a public forum. You used it as an example as to why your idea is valid. But you can't backup your claims. Again.


You brought up subs in this thread:

Originally Posted by Humberto20


and yes, submarines are overpowered.


 

I also find it funny that you got a testing team from another game to test subs. How long did they play the game for? What environments did they play the game in? Why weren't they working on their own game?

I posted a number of links that prove you can't be trusted. Nothing to do with subs. Your history with TNF, your accusations against ONF. This new wild claim of yours is again, a wild claim. I'll go quote my post earlier in the thread: 

Originally Posted by ljsevern

No. CV's have plenty of other attack options, fighters are already very strong in CV gameplay.

 

So, do me a favour and if you want to have a balance discussion - don't make up stuff to try and legitimise your point of view. Stick with facts and evidence related to NF. 

  • Re : (Poll) Should fighters have the ability to shoot at ships including submarines?

    03. 15. 2015 11:52


joris92

Originally Posted by Humberto20

Originally Posted by Charizard97

This will NEVER happen the sooner you realize that the better. . .




What part of debate/discussion. Dont you get, do you realize that this thread is not in suggestion, subforum, right?



What part of NavyFIELD do you not understand?

EDIT: This is a serious reason of why I play NavyFIELD less often nowadays and it is caused by events. (This kind of community)

  • Re : (Poll) Should fighters have the ability to shoot at ships including submarines?

    03. 15. 2015 12:04


Humberto20

Originally Posted by ljsevern

Originally Posted by Humberto20


How about, you focus in your personal matters and concerns, because what i do outside of Navyfield is none of your business. You have no right to demand to which company, i work for. If you really want to believe i am making this up, thats up to you. I dont really have no problem at all, if you decide to believe i am making things up. I

Again, stay out of my business, and Honestly do you really think, i am going to give it you, knowing what you have done to me in the past, so you can go run to them, and make up stories so they get me out too. Wrong.

You distorted the post where i stated ; Submarines are overpowered.

You brought up certain links from BS sites and 2 links from Jedi site. You were trying to prove that i always liked the submarines, and claiming my obssesion. Which my main point was, to confirm that submarines were overpowered. Is it that hard to understand, and yes it is related, Testing its part of my job, so i did with the submarine with a group of people who are good at testing units, and so far out of 10 people, 3 determined subs were fine and 7 thought they were overpowered, 10 people that had nothing to do with NF. I do hope, that clarify your concerns.

Note: Do me a favor, as i do stay our your business, out of your private life, out of everything you do, please stay out of mine. Unless you have a warrant from the goverment, to search or investgate. Othewise, you have ' 0 ' authority to ask me, about my life outside of navyfield.  



You brought it up:

Originally Posted by Humberto20


Actually, i do. I am currently part of a design-testing team for another gaming company. 
For your last statement, there are alternatives to test new or modify contents, which you should know, a thing called test server, back-up .something if goes wrong, you can just scratch and start over again, without affecting your live server.  



You made this everyones business by posting about it on a public forum. You used it as an example as to why your idea is valid. But you can't backup your claims. Again.


You brought up subs in this thread:

Originally Posted by Humberto20


and yes, submarines are overpowered.


 

I also find it funny that you got a testing team from another game to test subs. How long did they play the game for? What environments did they play the game in? Why weren't they working on their own game?

I posted a number of links that prove you can't be trusted. Nothing to do with subs. Your history with TNF, your accusations against ONF. This new wild claim of yours is again, a wild claim. I'll go quote my post earlier in the thread: 

Originally Posted by ljsevern

No. CV's have plenty of other attack options, fighters are already very strong in CV gameplay.

 

So, do me a favour and if you want to have a balance discussion - don't make up stuff to try and legitimise your point of view. Stick with facts and evidence related to NF. 




1st To Clarify something, I wanted to find my own way of source to verify that the submarines were overpowered ot not, a source that was not Biased.Its sad, i had to approach to other testers that has nothing to do with NF to test how legit the current status of the submarines are, and or how much it needs to be reworked. Answering your question,why werent they working on their own game? do you know, there are break rights? do you realize, that testing can take longer right? you dont necesarily to do everything in 1 day. Well, thats how we do it, through videos,  reading the stats of all ships clases, data and all information possible needed to make the conclusion that submarines were required to be reworked.  Happy now?

2nd Just because, i decided to share something, doesnt mean you can pull my whole arm into it. 

I am protected by Rule number 8. By saying company name, i will be failling into Advertisement, which is clearly prohibited. I may not advertise in public or Private any content no related to NF.

8. You may not post advertisements.
Advertising on these forums is not allowed, specifically posts that advertise a
transaction for real money or any post that discusses an action prohibited by the User
Agreement. This also includes referral websites and linking to websites where you are
credited for referrals. Advertising for other games is also prohibited. All advertising
posts of this nature will be removed without notification. However, advertising for fleets
will be allowed in the off-topic section of the forums. 


I may not be trusted by a group, but obviously you are not trusted by many. ( I have my sources ) Which i do respect the benefit of privacy.   

  • Re : (Poll) Should fighters have the ability to shoot at ships including submarines?

    03. 15. 2015 12:12


Humberto20

Originally Posted by joris92

Originally Posted by Humberto20

Originally Posted by Charizard97

This will NEVER happen the sooner you realize that the better. . .




What part of debate/discussion. Dont you get, do you realize that this thread is not in suggestion, subforum, right?



What part of NavyFIELD do you not understand?

EDIT: This is a serious reason of why I play NavyFIELD less often nowadays and it is caused by events. (This kind of community)




Dont confuse polls with suggestions. People can just say no, state their reasons, and thats fine as well. Debates are also important and constructive for all sides.

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