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QV (UK)?????????
07. 21. 2011 07:15
FastpOne
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With all this updates and chatters does this mean QV/uk ships will be the weakest now :(
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Re : QV (UK)?????????
07. 22. 2011 07:39
killer12347
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Dj....
If they made KAiser only for HA's then they should make it a rental or an event ship.
I dont want to play for a lvl 120 ship that is only useful in a game mode that is played 1/10000 of a time and only under certain conditions.
Dont be silly.
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Re : QV (UK)?????????
07. 22. 2011 07:42
DJDeath
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Originally Posted by killer12347
I dont want to play for a lvl 120 ship that is only useful in a game mode that is played 1/10000 of a time and only under certain conditions.
Then don't.
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Re : QV (UK)?????????
07. 22. 2011 07:52
killer12347
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Dj if you cant understand that a ship you pay that amount of creds and point cant be good in just one game mode, that is not my prob, but neither will i sit back and be pleased with that.
If you disagree with me, fine, but be silent if you dont have better arguments as you mentioned before. If they make kaiser better it wont hurt you, but will make some of us happier.
@ thebarrel
I use 16" on H44, but its a shame that we have an optional 18" set that is useless. They should fix it.
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Re : QV (UK)?????????
07. 22. 2011 07:57
DJDeath
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If you want to complain, go grind to Amagi, which is neither much fun in GB, nor very useful in an HA (i.e. can't do anything another BB6 can't do better). Nobody's forcing you to pay 50 million credits to buy a Kaiser, which is excellent for HAs, and not as bad in GB as you're trying to make out.
PS: A slight accuracy increase was already suggested for Kaiser, and to that I agree.
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Re : QV (UK)?????????
07. 22. 2011 08:02
Gtdawg
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I can play Kaiser all day long in GBs and get 175-250k every time. You guys must be playing it wrong.
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Re : QV (UK)?????????
07. 22. 2011 08:03
free3play
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Originally Posted by killer12347
Dj....
If they made KAiser only for HA's then they should make it a rental or an event ship.
I dont want to play for a lvl 120 ship that is only useful in a game mode that is played 1/10000 of a time and only under certain conditions.
Dont be silly.
Play BBs rooms. GB2 rooms are full of leaching worthless players, dont ruin the game by balancing for them.
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Re : QV (UK)?????????
07. 22. 2011 08:10
killer12347
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Originally Posted by free3play
Originally Posted by killer12347
Dj....
If they made KAiser only for HA's then they should make it a rental or an event ship.
I dont want to play for a lvl 120 ship that is only useful in a game mode that is played 1/10000 of a time and only under certain conditions.
Dont be silly.
Play BBs rooms. GB2 rooms are full of leaching worthless players, dont ruin the game by balancing for them.
Well sorry, but i dont want to wait whole day in BB1-5 rooms, i want to play in reasonable amount of time. @ dj Well spread fix for kaiser and dont forget shell fix, cause now a Vanny with 4 turret setup and 5" or something like that of deck can bounce Kaizers HE. That shouldnt happen. And QV is too thin. It really is. I see the reasoning behind that. Designed for rushing. Ok, but rushing must end at cvertain point. The damage taken must force you to either brake off rushing or die. With QV as it is, this is not happening.
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Re : QV (UK)?????????
07. 22. 2011 11:03
ljsevern
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Originally Posted by killer12347
Regardles of what Ljsevern sez....
Kaizer:
Pros: - range
- nice AA
Cons: - slow speed
- weak shell penetration (note not damage, but the ability to inflict the intended shell damage)
- shotgun spread
QV:
Pros: - extremely thin profile (try getting more than 3 shells on a rushing QV)
- blockshot
- massive shell damage
Cons: - AA?
So really, how is Kaiser best BB6 pls? Only because a player in Kaizer is that much better than the ones that normaly drive around in QVs, that doen not make the ship the best.
In my opinion if 2 same skilled players meet one on one in Kaizer and QV, QV will win. Sure Kaizer has better range, but slow as it is, it cant escape the rushing QV and bad spread makes it imposibble to defeat a rushing needle thin QV.
My solution, fix Kaisers shells so they inflict the damage they are supposed to and make QV fatter, so that more shells can land on it. Either that, or make Kaizers spread better.
As for H44.... Make lvl 110 guns usable by giving them little more range OR damage.
Just my 100€.
You forgot to add with the QV:- Cons:- Range jumps from normal range (Below BB6) to BB5 range due to low angle Poor armour penetration due to low angle Poor speed when armoured (35). Low range Oh, and the QV and Kaiser have the same salvo damage, not "massive shell damage".
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Re : QV (UK)?????????
07. 22. 2011 11:12
Thebarrel
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Originally Posted by ljsevern
Originally Posted by killer12347
Regardles of what Ljsevern sez....
Kaizer:
Pros: - range
- nice AA
Cons: - slow speed
- weak shell penetration (note not damage, but the ability to inflict the intended shell damage)
- shotgun spread
QV:
Pros: - extremely thin profile (try getting more than 3 shells on a rushing QV)
- blockshot
- massive shell damage
Cons: - AA?
So really, how is Kaiser best BB6 pls? Only because a player in Kaizer is that much better than the ones that normaly drive around in QVs, that doen not make the ship the best.
In my opinion if 2 same skilled players meet one on one in Kaizer and QV, QV will win. Sure Kaizer has better range, but slow as it is, it cant escape the rushing QV and bad spread makes it imposibble to defeat a rushing needle thin QV.
My solution, fix Kaisers shells so they inflict the damage they are supposed to and make QV fatter, so that more shells can land on it. Either that, or make Kaizers spread better.
As for H44.... Make lvl 110 guns usable by giving them little more range OR damage.
Just my 100€.
You forgot to add with the QV:- Cons:- Range jumps from normal range (Below BB6) to BB5 range due to low angle Poor armour penetration due to low angle Poor speed when armoured (35). Low range Oh, and the QV and Kaiser have the same salvo damage, not "massive shell damage".
low angle = target cant run and easymode in gb due to its firepower + low angle and ability to take a hit 40 knts unarmored still able to take a hit but yes.... in a ha or large bb rooms the kaiser = wins ... thats what km is made for afterall
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Re : QV (UK)?????????
07. 22. 2011 12:52
angus725
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Lukas, Average Kaiser salvo damage is lower than that of QV....
Proof:
Me with Kaiser, no AA was used although I did have my AA guns on. (if I did fire my AA guns once, the actual hitrate would be even higher)
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s139/angus725/NF/700kKaiser.png
NF attack records:
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/7127/20429932.jpg
Same hitrate, QV has 70k more attack.
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