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  • QV (UK)?????????

    07. 21. 2011 07:15


FastpOne
With all this updates and chatters does this mean QV/uk ships will be the weakest now :(

 

  • Re : QV (UK)?????????

    07. 22. 2011 13:09


FastpOne
my god ppl this is like MAC AND PC Arguing eachother xd so terible who wants km ^^''

  • Re : QV (UK)?????????

    07. 22. 2011 15:08


SadisticOne
"Poor speed when armoured (35)."

Lol! You expect it to go 39 knots armoured? But yer I think Kaiser is the better ship overall.

  • Re : QV (UK)?????????

    07. 22. 2011 16:01


Viper01
Originally Posted by ljsevern

You forgot to add with the QV:-

Cons:-

Range jumps from normal range (Below BB6) to BB5 range due to low angle
Poor armour penetration due to low angle
Poor speed when armoured (35).
Low range

Oh, and the QV and Kaiser have the same salvo damage, not "massive shell damage".


Actually armor pen isn't really a problem, below 30 you start hitting belt pretty often. That's why QVs are the bane of my Nelson. It's only 1 knot base slower than Kaiser when it is fully armored...not really a con.

  • Re : QV (UK)?????????

    07. 22. 2011 16:56


Thebarrel
also no offence but who was as stupid as to give alsace 44 knts 3gun and 30k dp ?? 3 knts faster then every other bb5 exept for sy was good enught

  • Re : QV (UK)?????????

    07. 22. 2011 18:38


COAESystems
Lol. Comparing UK to KM is like apples and pears. Two entirely different play styles. UK is KM's weakness, it's countered by US in all tiers apart from BB3. IJN and MN sit in the middle, MN has a slight edge over IJN after the patch. SN is still broken.

Nebraska > QV > Kaiser = Nebraska on one loop

Charle can deal with all BB6 but has a hitbox weakness, only good for rushing
P24 is the defensive BB6, worst for 1v1 situation but good in line fight, opposing style to Charle
Kaiser/Nebraska > Amagi > QV > Kaiser on 2nd loop

  • Re : QV (UK)?????????

    07. 22. 2011 19:32


Viper01
In what type of room are you talking Coae? 1 vs 1? GB? BB rooms? In every situation which BB6 is better than which is completely different.

  • Re : QV (UK)?????????

    07. 22. 2011 21:15


normpearii
Originally Posted by Thebarrel

also no offence but who was as stupid as to give alsace 44 knts 3gun and 30k dp ?? 3 knts faster then every other bb5 exept for sy was good enught


I hope you ment 4.... I haven't seen them over power any GBs I've been in the last 2 days.... Its a simple as hit them hard as soon as they turn and they run away....



I've had no problems with the 5/6 BB6s in GBIIs or HAs, I haven't had a chance to play the changed SN BB6 but I have to say seeing it in a vs All today, it was horrible, It was like watching a Yammy try to play a BB6 room without AA...

I have to say though the new Charlemagne is spiking a lot of interest in me :)

  • Re : QV (UK)?????????

    07. 22. 2011 22:49


ljsevern
Originally Posted by angus725

Lukas, Average Kaiser salvo damage is lower than that of QV....

Proof:

Me with Kaiser, no AA was used although I did have my AA guns on. (if I did fire my AA guns once, the actual hitrate would be even higher)
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s139/angus725/NF/700kKaiser.png

NF attack records:
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/7127/20429932.jpg

Same hitrate, QV has 70k more attack.


Do a full salvo damage test. You can't use that as proof as you could well have had more belt hits/hits against armour. It has been tested and proven Angus.

  • Re : QV (UK)?????????

    07. 22. 2011 22:51


ljsevern
Originally Posted by SadisticOne

"Poor speed when armoured (35)."

Lol! You expect it to go 39 knots armoured? But yer I think Kaiser is the better ship overall.


Did I say that I expected it to? No.

  • Re : QV (UK)?????????

    07. 22. 2011 22:52


ljsevern
Originally Posted by Thebarrel

Originally Posted by ljsevern

Originally Posted by killer12347

Regardles of what Ljsevern sez....

Kaizer:

Pros: - range
- nice AA

Cons: - slow speed
- weak shell penetration (note not damage, but the ability to inflict the intended shell damage)
- shotgun spread


QV:

Pros: - extremely thin profile (try getting more than 3 shells on a rushing QV)
- blockshot
- massive shell damage

Cons: - AA?

So really, how is Kaiser best BB6 pls? Only because a player in Kaizer is that much better than the ones that normaly drive around in QVs, that doen not make the ship the best.

In my opinion if 2 same skilled players meet one on one in Kaizer and QV, QV will win. Sure Kaizer has better range, but slow as it is, it cant escape the rushing QV and bad spread makes it imposibble to defeat a rushing needle thin QV.


My solution, fix Kaisers shells so they inflict the damage they are supposed to and make QV fatter, so that more shells can land on it. Either that, or make Kaizers spread better.

As for H44.... Make lvl 110 guns usable by giving them little more range OR damage.

Just my 100€.


You forgot to add with the QV:-

Cons:-

Range jumps from normal range (Below BB6) to BB5 range due to low angle
Poor armour penetration due to low angle
Poor speed when armoured (35).
Low range

Oh, and the QV and Kaiser have the same salvo damage, not "massive shell damage".


low angle = target cant run and easymode in gb due to its firepower + low angle and ability to take a hit 40 knts unarmored still able to take a hit

but yes.... in a ha or large bb rooms the kaiser = wins ... thats what km is made for afterall


Low Angle = More range jumps and poor armour penetration.

QV has the same ability to take a hit as every other BB6. The Submergence is all the same.

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