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  • Meeting Actions - *Update 2*

    12. 02. 2012 01:58


vick11

Actions from the Fleet Leader meeting on 1st December:

 

1.  Randy will request a specific update on the issue of HA:

-  Core HA update and crashing issues.

-  HA Battle Mode.

-  Timeline and place in priorities.

*In progress*

*Update 2 - Very grateful for the reporting of HA bugs, please keep those coming in.  The Devs are working to replicate those in testing to then continue working on solutions.  There have been some changes introduced over the last couple of patches so any news on how HA is working would be welcomed on tickets.*

 

2.  We will question SDE about the Achievement System that was on the original work plan for 2012.  Is it still on the list or has it been removed, if still an aspiration what is happening with it?

*Update 2 - Investigation showed that the introduction of a meaningful achievement system within the current game engine would be a major project and so it was put on hold for the time being whilst other work is done.  It may get reserected later.*

 

3.  We will explore the possibility of a Poll system that pops-up at the Login page (only once per account for each Poll) to encourage greater participation in Polls.

*Being considered*

4.  When the new Fleet Leader forum opens we will discuss topics for meaningful, constructive, Polls.

*Waiting for Fleet Leader forum area in new construct - second priority after Amazon project*

 

5.  The Fleet Leader forum area is being worked on, but we will get an estimate as to when it may appear.

*No2 priority to Amazon - latest estimate is start of Feb 13"

 

6.  The new Fleet Leader area will be permission based rather than automatically linked to account status.  As such we will be able to consider cases for specific access beyond pure Fleet Leaders or Fleet Accounts if there is tangible benefit, eg some of the Testers on a case-by-case basis.

*As above*

 

7.  Trainworld content is useful, but falling behind recent changes as it is not a SDE resource and very much reliant on a single person.  Need to explore whether the asset can be incorporated to NF.com and kept upto date or elements of it replicated on the core site. 

*Unfortunately SDE cannot take over the updating or content of trainworld, which is privately owned/operated/updated and thereby reliant on that person*

 

8.  Update '/' commands in-game and in the guides.  Anyone with input to that please forward to Head Moderator who will request the update.

*Passed to Devs - thank you for inputs*

 

9.  Update and expand game guides.  We intend to set work going on this with the revised Fleet Leader forum area (that will be read to all, write for Fleet Leaders).  

*Some background work started on this (thanks to Lj and Darkfrost) - considering a way to get wider involvement ahead of FL area as well*

 

10.  Explore whether the Test Server can be same loading as main game but then a branch option from the Login page to save having to use a separate client.  There was a similar option in the past, can it be done again?

*Question asked - Waiting on response*

*Update 2 - although this was possible a few years ago for a short time, unfortunately it is not technically possible with today's version*

 

11.  Forum Rules and Server Rules review, plus application of rules.  We will open these discussions in the revised Fleet Leader area.

*Waiting on FL area - could be an agenda item for Fleet Summit?*

 

12.  Randy will establish an issues update thread that he will endeavour to update weekly on any progress across a range of issues and questions so we can attempt to better track and communicate where we are on developments, timeframes and priorities.

 

13.  We will consult SDE about producing a 'public' version of the Moderator Manual so players can better understand how TeamNF is constructed, how it works and its accountability, and the processes for complaint.

*Draft sent to SDE for consideration*

*Update 2 - Draft approved.  Should appear as a pdf on the Download > Manual > Public Mod Manual  link in the near future*

 

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On a side note, Randy talked about advertisement of the game through Amazon to attract new players and linkages with them on item payment.  Hopefully there will be more news on this in the near future.

 

 

  • Re : Meeting Actions - *Update 2*

    01. 14. 2013 12:41


DrZawaz

Originally Posted by vick11

Update 2 under item 13.



Yeah I saw that, but it hasn't been posted yet to the manual section so I was asking if their was any news on it. But i'm guessing from your response that their isn't since then. 

  • Re : Meeting Actions - *Update 2*

    01. 14. 2013 16:25


ljsevern

When it gets posted to the website as it has been approved, instead of having it added silently, could there be a thread here in GD on it so the community can give their thoughts and input?

  • Re : Meeting Actions - *Update 2*

    01. 15. 2013 09:43


vick11

The public version of the Manual is being posted for information and for players to understand some of the ways the team works.  It is not a debating piece and certainly not something for players to use in any way to try and argue points with members of the Team.  Para 1 makes that clear.

 

I have been told it should appear at the same time as the FL forum area.

  • Re : Meeting Actions - *Update 2*

    01. 15. 2013 16:13


aide4

So people arn't allowed to quote the manual when a tnf member is doing something in blatent dissregard for the rules and regulations that they are supposed to abide by

 

 

 

Yea okay.

  • Re : Meeting Actions - *Update 2*

    01. 15. 2013 16:24


Kilaenots

Originally Posted by vick11

The public version of the Manual is being posted for information and for players to understand some of the ways the team works.  It is not a debating piece and certainly not something for players to use in any way to try and argue points with members of the Team.  Para 1 makes that clear.

 

I have been told it should appear at the same time as the FL forum area.

There realy is no point in publishing it unless it is to allow players to understand the remit given and use it when members of TNF have acted out side that remit.

  • Re : Meeting Actions - *Update 2*

    01. 15. 2013 22:23


ljsevern

Originally Posted by Kilaenots

Originally Posted by vick11

The public version of the Manual is being posted for information and for players to understand some of the ways the team works.  It is not a debating piece and certainly not something for players to use in any way to try and argue points with members of the Team.  Para 1 makes that clear.

 

I have been told it should appear at the same time as the FL forum area.

There realy is no point in publishing it unless it is to allow players to understand the remit given and use it when members of TNF have acted out side that remit.

Exactly. And why would it take so long for it to be posted?

Surely if its been drafted and approved, it can be posted now? Why wait until the same time as the FL forum area? In Feb? Why on earth is that taking so long? Are the web developers completely incompetant, or do they work 1 hour a week?

  • Re : Meeting Actions - *Update 2*

    01. 15. 2013 22:48


vick11

I have answered when it will be posted.

  • Re : Meeting Actions - *Update 2*

    01. 16. 2013 00:15


ljsevern

Originally Posted by vick11

I have answered when it will be posted.

Yet you haven't answered the questions posed by the community.

Why aren't players allowed to cite the manual in disputes with moderators, why isn't the manual up for community input and discussion, why is it taking SDE a stupid amount of time to post something they already have and have approved, and why is it taking SDE months to make a fleet leaders area? And why isn't the old one put back until that new area is ready?

This is what we have been trying to tell you. Thinking that TNF/SDE aren't answerable to the community is what got you into this mess of declining player numbers and an unhappy community. Look at the posts in this thread, other parts of the forums, on public fleet forums, on blogs, etc etc. Its always the same thing. SDE/TNF aren't listening. You promised at the fleet leader meeting on the 1st December to listen. As sindher said in another thread:-

 

Originally Posted by Sindher


I don't believe anything has come out of the last FL meeting apart from 14 points that already need to be worked through.

1 is in progress.

2 may get researched later

3 is being considered

4 is on hold until after the amazon project

5 is on hold until 13th Feb

6 is a part of 4/5

7 missed the point at the meeting where it was cited NF.com and Trainworld are out of date. We realise that trainworld is a 3rd party website, but the point was there is little/no accurate documentation on NF.com, and the existing stuff is poor at best.

8 is passed to devs, no updates

9 is delayed for FL area which as point 5, waiting for 13th feb

10 - not possible (was a test server question so more suited there) (An Answer)

11 - delayed to FL area

12 - Randy's updates - A start, a promise not broken, but need to be improved upon as said in the feedback in the threads themselves and more info given. (An Action that has been fulfilled, not to a great standard, but a start)

13 - Sent to SDE, has been approved - link in "near future". Vick 11 says it will be at the same time as the FL area on the 13th Feb

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See a pattern?

  • Re : Meeting Actions - *Update 2*

    01. 17. 2013 11:24


vick11

If there is a specific issue about a support interaction with a member of TeamNF then there is a process to raise that and it will be looked at and a response provided, as has always been the case.  Providing a public version of the Moderator Manual is for information purposes so that players can understand better how TeamNF works and what processes it utilises.  It will also inform those many people who apply to join each time a bit more about the type of duties we expect of them and the expectations we have of them in those duties. 

 

Thank you for summarising where we are with the actions, there is nothing further to update on that at the moment.  When there is we will let you know at the earliest opportunity.

 

  • Re : Meeting Actions - *Update 2*

    01. 17. 2013 12:34


andy1984

and nothing will every change to me it was a wast of time

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